Democratic Rule

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

What you do for vets is huge.

You say you don't care about left and right yet you responded to Randy with comparisons about money spent during Obama's presidency versus Trump's.

What Trump understands is that you can throw all the money you want at a problem but if you don't change the way it's administered and the people involved the problem doesn't get better. Trump brought accountability to the VA, proper oversight and efficiency. The results speak for themselves.

Randy's friend is a perfect example. Why would anyone want to travel 150 miles for care, free ride or not, when he can receive care 35 miles away? Why would anyone suggest that a person should have to travel 150 miles when care can be received 35 miles away? Never mind that the guy's got cancer.

At best it's inefficient. At worst it's insane. But that's how the government operates and that why the government is always part of the problem instead of part of the solution and that's why the government hates Trump.

First off, I can give you the budget for the VA all the way back to it’s founding, 1940. The budget is controlled by Congress and it has increased by 200% from 1940 to 2013.

The program that I assume Randy’s friend that has cancer needs to be treated for by an oncologist. Under the CHOICE program that is monitored by the VA Community Health Group and paid for by TriWest would be a program worth looking into, it is for people that would live more then 50 miles from a VA facility. This program is over 7 years old and was recently extended in 2019. But the down to it is it has not been communicated well to Vets, most are not aware it exists and furthermore the use of private sector healthcare provider is expensive.

Let’s do a little homework on Mr. Wilkie. He has been asked to be dismissed by every Veteran’s Advocacy group in the country.

[SStockDart]

I miss spoke a little earlier. It was TriWest that is paying for my treatment with an oncologist (appt today at 1 PM).

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

I miss spoke a little earlier. It was TriWest that is paying for my treatment with an oncologist (appt today at 1 PM).

Good luck, hope all is well.

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

First off, I can give you the budget for the VA all the way back to it’s founding, 1940. The budget is controlled by Congress and it has increased by 200% from 1940 to 2013.

The program that I assume Randy’s friend that has cancer needs to be treated for by an oncologist. Under the CHOICE program that is monitored by the VA Community Health Group and paid for by TriWest would be a program worth looking into, it is for people that would live more then 50 miles from a VA facility. This program is over 7 years old and was recently extended in 2019. But the down to it is it has not been communicated well to Vets, most are not aware it exists and furthermore the use of private sector healthcare provider is expensive.

Let’s do a little homework on Mr. Wilkie. He has been asked to be dismissed by every Veteran’s Advocacy group in the country.

We dumb witted conservates get it. Congress holds the purse strings.

What we also get is that throwing money at a problem does nothing but make the problem worse especially when you have people that spend like a drunken sailor and have the same level of accountability as that drunken sailor.

You're right the VA's perfect and always has been when democrats are involved and the only thing Trump did was destroy it.

Every time I see advocacy groups involved in anything I see nothing but complaints and hear that the only solution to everything is more money.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

We dumb witted conservates get it. Congress holds the purse strings.

What we also get is that throwing money at a problem does nothing but make the problem worse especially when you have people that spend like a drunken sailor and have the same level of accountability as that drunken sailor.

You're right the VA's perfect and always has been when democrats are involved and the only thing Trump did was destroy it.

Every time I see advocacy groups involved in anything I see nothing but complaints and hear that the only solution to everything is more money.

You can’t tell me there no healthcare specialist that have years of experience in managing large hospitals available in this country. EXPERIENCE! Not cronies.

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

You can’t tell me there no healthcare specialist that have years of experience in managing large hospitals available in this country. EXPERIENCE! Not cronies.

Hospitals are notoriously mismanaged. The money pours in from lots of sources and goes out the window just a fast as it comes in and spent on bad decisions and funding a bloated, inefficient, and arrogant bureaucracy.

The last thing the VA needed was someone with years of hospital management experience.

Trump is a businessman. He applied what he learned in business to just about everything. Good things happening and results occurred but apparently people's feelings were more important to the left than getting the county on track including the VA.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

Hospitals are notoriously mismanaged. The money pours in from lots of sources and goes out the window just a fast as it comes in and spent on bad decisions and funding a bloated, inefficient, and arrogant bureaucracy.

The last thing the VA needed was someone with years of hospital management experience.

Trump is a businessman. He applied what he learned in business to just about everything. Good things happening and results occurred but apparently people's feelings were more important to the left than getting the county on track including the VA.

This was is getting cyclic and boring. Thank you

[SSGT Mustang]

Originally Posted by Eddies66

This was is getting cyclic and boring. Thank you

The truth hurts. Putting your head in the sand isn't going to help you or anyone else let alone the country.

[Eddies66]

Originally Posted by SSGT Mustang

The truth hurts. Putting your head in the sand isn't going to help you or anyone else let alone the country.

The cost of privatizing the VA will cost 4 times the current budget. Great business plan. When this happens the 10 year milcom projects to improve the facilities are wasted. Somethings can’t be outsourced i.e., like mental health for PTSD, the specialist in treating combat wounds, and military related injuries. What the hell kind brilliant business is that.