Automatic Horsepower Factoring System

[Bruce Noland]

Evan,
I believe you made the comment about bitching without offering solutions. I was simply following up on your remarks. And you're right nobody is forcing us to race, but are you saying we should be happy about a system that cheats the racers? I voted for you but you are already sounding a little too nhra-ish. You say it stinks that the racers have to suffer as a result of the ahfs, but then you say for the record that the ahfs doesn't stink. Diplomacy is cool - being disingenuous is not.

Dave,
Another lecture from you and I'm really going to scream. I'm just pointing out the sorry condition of the ahfs and some of the double talk that is offered to support it.

[vic guilmino]

EVAN
you are one who can run 1.40 under
are you going to do something about your self

[Evan Smith]

Bruce,

I am not saying you should be happy and turn a blind eye to something that bothers you. No one should. Nor am I on the NHRA's side. I am a racer and I am going to do the best I can for the Stock/Super Stock racers as a group. I am also a straight shooter, just because something causes bad results doesn't mean the root of the problem is completely terrible. You make it pretty clear that you have a personal beef with NHRA and I was not pointing a finger at you or anyone. Furthermore, you are as opinionated as anyone on this board so don't blast me for speaking my mind. I appreciate the vote and you know me well enough to know I will break my *** to make things better.

Everyone agrees that it is not a perfect racing world and understand that I am far from satisfied with the current state of Class racing. That is why I got involved. You don't see me on here bitching about this and bitching about that. I jumped in to make a change. Many people want, want, want, without realizing the challenges for the sanctioning body. From time to time I will offer a view from the other side of the fence, because I have experience in promoting races, working for the racetrack as a track official. Just because I offer this view, doesn't mean I am NHRA-ish.

We all know the AHFS is not perfect, but do I think it totally stinks, no. Does it need changes, it sure does. I just spent the better part of an hour on the phone with Wesley talking about changes that can be implemented. He assures me that the council will be able to make changes and that he wants racers to be happy and for a system to be fair for all. You can believe what you want, but this is what I was told.


Vic,

Those are strong words from someone who's car is very fast. I run my car hard, and close to the minimum weight at all times. I think you misunderstood my post. All I was pointing out is that the AHFS offers the chance to sandbag and many racers do a good job of that. I wasn't saying that is a bad thing. Of course it is a pity that racers have to do so to such an extent. We should be allowed the freedom to run hard. You have to play the game if you don't want hp. I can name quite a few racers who run a "D" at "F" weight.

Evan

[Evan Smith]

George Fitzpatrick,

Can you please call me tomorrow. 201-712-9300 x 644. Or shoot me an email at evan.smith@sourceinterlink.com. I have some information for you.

Evan

[vic guilmino]

evan
iam going bye what you have said to me at etown last year
and i do not think anybody is running d with f wt.
that would be 300 + #s

[Bruce Noland]

Evan,

My beef is with a convoluted rule system that is being administered by hit and run artists. I'm glad you had a good conversation with Wesley. Please do me a favor and ask him why he doesn't bother to announce rule changes before he implements them? Also ask him why he didn't bother to tell all the racers that he had come up with this insane grouping of combinations before he started whacking them? Gettting a straight answer for these two questions would be very helpful. I wish you all the best.

I have communicated with two other members of the council in the last 24 hours and sincerely hope all of you can make a difference. Why? Because racers are giving up. In the last three months I have heard more than a few racers say they are having serious thoughts about quitting.

[Rich Biebel]

Forgive me for being an outsider making a comment about Stock and the AHFS and what some guys say. It is hard to read some of this stuff and not want to make a comment. It is always pointed out that Stock should be a performance based category and is not bracket racing. Well I have to point out to you that many races are being won by notoriuosly good bracket racers. All over the country winners are often previously known for their bracket racing wins. And it kind of strikes me that no matter what plan or program NHRA devises to try and "equalize" the various combinations......somebody is not happy and starts to point out why it doesn't work, won't work, isn't fair and so on. In the old days.....and I was there and raced under those conditions......YOU RACED OFF YOUR NATIONAL RECORDS...No indexes....sandbag if you want but handicaps were set by your records. I also recall that during some periods if you exceeded your record in a final round, you tore down and if your were good,,,, you got the win and the record as well. You want your integrity back......go back to the old rules and trash the AHFS.........Stop bitching and do some real racing.....I'd rather watch Pinks than modern day Stock the way it's being run with all the sandbagging, whinning and complaining. I raced Stock a very limited number of years with various cars in different eras. I quit after my last short stint and some of you would slam me as an outsider. That's ok....I'm just giving you my point of view as one who has raced it and many other categories as well. Devise a set of rules that let the fast cars win but enforce the rules and put some real racing back into your category. Show off your performance and be willing to tear it down to get the money and hardware. That would make Stock eliminator a hell of a lot better and definately seperate yourselves from us "lowly" bracket and super class racers! Flame on....

[JIM BOUDREAU]

Evan. I'm for lowering the indexes 3 Tenths. This would enable us to run all out for class and not have to slow our cars down at National Events in the spring and fall. Indexes have been the same for at least the last ----what?---15 years. What does the other side of the fence think of lowering indexes? You are our stk/ ss representative, lets get to work!!!!! Only kidding Evan, I know there are a lot of Stk and SS racers that would like to see this happen. Good luck with your new challenge.