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Old 10-14-2023, 03:29 AM   #1
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A good 1st outing on the Re-debut in my older age (I will call it a success at this point), A full Monday into Tuesday before the event worked on the car in Boulder City (Thank you again John & Jon Irving! I really appreciate it my brothers!) Changed the cam, dialed it in 3 degrees Adv., and it got me back the bottom end and my brakes and vacuum fully at idle and brake booster is holding vacuum between engine starts again max allowable lift by specs .445/.445 (actual measured cam lift on the newly installed cam w/ solid lifter @ zero lash measured at the retainer .432I/.430E Purple Shaft D.C. cam by Crane, 107 Degree Centerline, 252 degree Duration). Added the aftermarket +60 percent Mallory Injector, attempted to add back the Crane adjustable Fuel Pressure Regulator, (this took a couple of hours as just turning on the pump it leaked repeatedly even after replacing gaskets and "O-rings 3 times), finally discovered it is a common problem I never had before w/ the part, but on the fold over of the clamshell-where top and bottom are machine pressed together the seam separated and gas under pressure is spraying out, attempted to locate a new one, no go, listed but out of stock everywhere, so I reinstalled the 42 PSI stock regulator w/ the vac 90 to T.B. signal port.

Made at least 2 other changes that I refuse to divulge here Some things just have to be mine). And we packed up, loaded up and headed to Bakersfield arriving somewhere after dark...I slept in the stacker and woke up staring up at a Mopar Trans. Pan, a very new but welcomed experience. (It did not leak during the night onto my face and sleeping bag, I ckd., then made a pot of coffee).

Yes, I brought my Mr. Coffee maker, and a ton of stuff (in the car, and in John's P.U. Bed)...a brand new 18 month project and brought everything including 4 cams, gaskets, and more stuff than you can imagine. If I do not have it with me, no doubt... I will need it!

It is Wednesday Test & Tune Day (I gladly paid the $100.00 in advance, I need track time).

We credentialed and found a pit spot, unloaded the cars and half my support junk. Set up camp on a section end just 1 row past the finish line, but Scott McClay is in Comp/Alcohol Pit area up by the Lanes and my car will spend days in his pit (as I crew for him...alone he and I the Thursday/Friday Race -this was a real struggle just 2 on a Comp. Elim. Car, and with 2 more crew members showing up Saturday/Sunday and Nights back w/ the Irving's. Thursday and Friday nights at the hotel w/ Scott (I spent Wed & Saturday nights camping in my car, an empty hatchback has a lot of room and all my seats fold down...But, if it took sleeping in the dirt at this point to race again, I would do it! (I had other options, the car and I became 1). LMAO

Wed. test and tune was a little struggle getting everything dialed in (large swings on timing (needed to find out exactly what this cam wanted as it had only been in the car once @ Houston Raceway Park for just 1 pass, in 1995 after a gully washer of a rainout, and it was installed at that time at the direction of a Houston Car Dealer's Service Mgr. dialed in at 5 degrees retarded (not the right direction for this car combo), and I removed it when it ran 2/10ths slower than the stock cam the week before (but after the recent Vegas session I reviewed all old data and saw the 5 degree retarded note in my Jegs 1995 Log Book, and instantly realized it was the right cam for right now, but 3 degrees advanced instead (a +8 degree swing)...And it turns out my intuition and knowledge in 2023 was a lot better than the newby to EFI I was in 93'-1997!

After the 3 passes on Wednesday (the last 1 in the high 17's and on the rev limit feature in 1 & 2...(to find out where that was because it is a fixed point in the ECM, can only set flags on/off...and on it is. I knew it would for the first time run under index at 8:30 in the AM)...and knew I would be holding a bit back also as I have competition in EF/S, McConnel was seen arriving earlier. Class racing is Saturday (and I am a live and internet poker player, showing cards,...Not unless you are required to, to grab the pot. Not yet at least. ~</;-)~ (A gentleman always wears a hat!)

I did reverse at least 2 of the car changes applied on Monday before pass #3 on Wednesday, the plugs were too rich w/ the +60 Injector without the higher pressure of the adj. regulator, so I added back the stock injector and undid 1 other change, and the timing is 3 degrees below both static initial & total, of the perfect setting. Not changing it right now though!

(I did say hi to Mr. O'Connor first thing Thursday AM, as we are old friends and competitors from years long gone by (we used to race both cars in GF/SA and GF/S together),I let him know he will not be in a combo race Saturday, as we meet again, and he was thrilled.) Saw many long lost friends and acquaintances, and it was fun to see people I have not seen in decades, but have been able to follow for a long while.

I was having fun but crewing for Scott McClay the first 2 days will be a struggle just the 2 of us (1 potential crew member is down with covid), the other(s) cannot be here until Saturday if at all). Eventually 2 others showed up Saturday AM. Relief all around!

Up at 5:00 AM

8:28 AM Thurs. Oct 5th Q1 (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un -161
(this was the actual first pass under the index since the rebuild...1/4 mile pass #13, 3-1/8 mile passes in Kingman, and 9 at Vegas, 4 now at Bakersfield...Who say's #13 is unlucky? R.T .050 Green (Ok, I know the spot, let's see on next pass). 60' 2.356, 330 7.013, 1/8 10.947 @ 62.58 1,000 14.362 1/4 17.289@76.89 (Short shifting 1/2)
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Old 10-14-2023, 03:31 AM   #2
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12:05 PM Thurs. Oct 5th Q2 (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un -189
(this was the actual second pass under the index since the rebuild...pass #14, R.T -.004 Red (Ok, I now know the true spot is correct, let's see on next pass). 60' 2.361, 330 7.028, 1/8 10.958 @ 62.65 MPH, 1,000 14.359 1/4 17.261@77.65 MPH (Short shifting 1/2, but added 200 RPM on 1/2 shift to ck the car's consistency, and as I suspected it picked up nearly/ not quite 3 full hundredths quicker-(compare the 2 pass increments, and find out exactly where it picked up), and in the heat of day, as all sensors and the factory ECM/PM are flawless right now in relation to the NEW TBI installed, EFI working finally like it should).

The car is very consistent for a slow car now. I, over everything else worked on that aspect over the 18 month project). Success so far, but I will not be setting the world on fire on the Q-list at this juncture. A look at the final Qualifying sheet tells me I will be meeting my old friend and the first one ever who suggested I race Stock waaaay back in 1983 at O.C.I.R., very soon, and we will be doing more than just saying Hi and a hand shake after a couple of decades plus...We will be Choosing lanes, Hiya old buddy #75 G/SA Chad Langdon! (It was great seeing you again Chad). Taking a lil' while still switching to LED's from floods on the tree, 5 ambers to 3, and I always loved Afternoon/evening/and late night racing over day racing, this kid is still a night owl, but adjusting to it. (No caffeine involved and in my old age I cannot wake up without it).

Up at 5:00 AM

8:43 AM Fri. Oct 6th 1st Rnd (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un 63
pass #15, (2 Cups of Coffee, 1/2 Bagel w/ Cream Cheese, a bit of C/ED unload work before first rnd to work off the coffee maybe...I have the other half of Bagel and cream cheese, should I eat it?...I should have to counteract the caffeine) R.T -.036 Red (Ok, I now know the true spot is correct, took my shot, but Chad is capable of tearing the tree down and I know it, 1 less cup of coffee, or eaten the other half, and it would have been a lot closer, loss at the tree, make use of it by collecting data, running it out and laying on the rev limiter on 1/2 and 2/3 shift...will slow the car down a lot ET wise, but then I can read the tattle tale tach and set the 1/2 and 2/3 shift better for upcoming class race tomorrow a bit closer). 60' 2.378, 330 7.125, 1/8 11.107 @ 62.06 MPH, 1,000 14.556 1/4 17.513@.76.21 MPH (Short shifting 1/2, but added 200 RPM on 1/2 shift to ck the car's consistency, and as I suspected it picked up nearly/ not quite 3 full hundredths quicker-(compare the 2 pass increments, and find out exactly where it picked up), and in the heat of day, as all sensors and the factory ECM/PM are flawless right now in relation to the NEW TBI installed, EFI working finally like it should).

1st Race is over for me, but the crewing has just really begun, and it is a struggle, not because I am racing also, but because we are at least 2 guys short, you cannot run a COMP ELIM CAR, successfully at least, w/ just 2 people period! (and Scott's day ends a lot like mine).
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Old 10-14-2023, 03:34 AM   #3
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I watch the entire 2 day race live stream replay before going to bed, all Stk Elim. passes on both days, and while a limited handful of STK Racers are hitting the tree as I am attempting just red/.000 to teens, the avg was more like .030 or higher, and while anyone can and does get lucky, anything can happen, I know who the killer tree hangers are, and I saw a lot way over .030, so relax a bit kid, then squeeze when you know you need to...Rome was not built in a day...shoot for .030 today as it is class racing day!

A bit of history...in October 1984 (on my oldest Son Nate's 9th B.D.) at Famoso I won my first Wally in the Firestone/Centerline Div. 6/7 Finals (a 250 car Heavy Bracket 3 field (different car, my 1963 Dodge Polara 383 13.5/1 C.R. 8-3/4" 727B Auto (Famoso Track Champ that year, and 4 other tracks, but I captained the A Team for Famoso, so this track and I are old friends, and here it is 39 yrs later, and I wake up to the chance of collecting another Wally, but McConnell has shown me a 16.85 and 16.95 2 days ago (I figure we are going to have a very tough race today, and it is a toss up if I need to leg it out at 7,000 RPM shifts, just do not cross that line beyond in any gear, as beyond is an unchangeable rev limiter and that = slower E.T.. (Use Q1 and hit rev limit feature only in 1 gear, see the results). Q2 will be under (Class Racing, 1 round for the Trophy!), so forget the Q sheet first pass.

Up at 5:00 AM (made coffee, poured a cup, but only a few sips, ate some honey roasted/coated nuts), just a handful.

8:21 AM Sat. Oct 7th Q1 (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un 94 pass #16 (1/2 Cup of Coffee, 1 Banana consumed, a bit of C/ED unload work before Q1(to work off the coffee maybe...I have another banana, should I eat it?) I do, &...I relax a bit shooting for .030, and .033 Green (Ok, I now know the true spot is correct, 60' 2.387, 330 7.070, 1/8 11.011 @ 62.54 MPH, 1,000 14.469 1/4 17.544@.73.67 MPH (Short shifting 1/2, but hit limiter on 2/3 as in bap/bap/shift (still at 7,300 RPM on tach)-(compare the 2 pass increments, and find out exactly where it slowed down...that kills a slow car by 3- 10ths, stay away from it), and in the cool or heat of day, as all sensors and the factory ECM/PM are flawless right now in relation to the NEW TBI installed, EFI working finally like it should).

Ok, next pass is the all important one. Change nothing except that rev limiter hit. Set Tach shift light at 6,800 and hit 7,000 RPM actual shifts if necessary. No icing, no other changes, still have 30 wt non detergent actual break-in oil in the car. McConnel was red in Q1 and ran another high 16. (if the lights are even, it will be a battle, and a possible toss up race).
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Old 10-14-2023, 03:36 AM   #4
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Meet up to pair up w/ Bill O'Connor (he wins the coin toss, takes the Left Lane). This will be my first pass in the right, no issues there.

11:33 AM Sat. Oct 7th CRl1 and Final and Q2 (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un -244 pass #17 (the other 1/2 Cups of Coffee, 1 more Banana consumed, a bit of C/ED work before class (to work off the coffee maybe)?...I relax a bit again and .032 Green (Ok, I now know the true spot is correct, and so am I, 60' 2.349 (at this point I saw my light was green, and look up about 60 feet out into my center rear view mirror, to see what his side of the tree was and it is green, aaaaand I also see the front bumper of his car at least 1.5 car lengths back, I snap my head left up against the drivers side window and stare at the front right corner of his front bumper (I think he is late or something), and I never take my eyes off that bumper, as I surge ahead pulling away a tiny bit, so I shift, same thing as I am pulling away again slightly, I shift again (then I realize we are approaching the finish line so I peek, lift, and brake allowing him to gain to about half a car back (but not get around me). I JUST WON CLASS, lifting and on the brakes. (People are going to call me crazy, but there is a method to my madness, the tattletale tach will tell me what to do next in Rnd 1)...330 6.990, 1/8 10.885 @ 64.14 MPH, 1,000 14.283 1/4 17.206 @ 75.71 MPH (I am not going to say what the actual shift points were, but I used them in round 1 and they were repeatable). O'Connor's #s were/are easily found online on the sheets, so no harm repeating em' here (no idea what happened at the tree, but something did on his side...17.45 Index Ov/Un -494 R.T. .427 Green 60' 2.297, 330 6.782, 1/8 10.641 @ 63.12, 1,000 14.039, 1/4 16.956 @ 76.92 LOSS

Right 1st .1458 Auto Start On Rnd # C1 2034/2033 Compulink Truestart

(Come to find out I am 50 lbs heavy, good on wt and fuel, Trophy in the mail!) He made it so I did not have to push the car a lot harder, but I could have. I cut off a bit closing it up a car length at the end. a couple/ few 10ths.

Later that afternoon (read the tach and both shifts were well below 7K), set my tach shift light settings). Set my dial at 17.20 to match the 17.206 I ran in Class 1, for Round 1 against Will Kelly's G/SA Cuda 12.00 Index/dialing 11.32.

5:16 PM Sat. Oct 7th Round 1-Race 2 (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un -207 pass #18 A full afternoon of C/ED work and Q rounds...I relax a bit again and .033 (three lights today .033,.032,.033) Green (Ok, I now know the true spot is correct, and so am I, 60' 2.349 (at this point I saw my light was green, 7.019, 1/8th 10.933@ 62.78 MPH, 1,000 14.338, 1/4 17.243 WIN on the brakes and lifting as he blows by like a rocket, a full car plus out...and I WON 1st round of race #2...I am racing on Sunday!

Will's numbers G/SA Index 12.00 Ovr/Und -775 Dial 11.32 R.T. .051, 60' 1.455, 330 4.427, 1/8 7.010 @ 94.65 MPH, 1,000 9.265 1/4 11.225 @ 107.90 MPH LOSS (I am not going to say what the actual shift points were, but I used them in round Cl1 and they were very repeatable, and it was just a bracket race, and a pretty good 1 at that, just like I remember them, TY Will for the top end play!). LOSS

Right 1st .1209 Left MOV .1389 Auto Start On Rnd # E1 2439/2438 Compulink Truestart

(I was good by 4.3 Hun/he was broke out by almost a 10th.9.5 to be exact).
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That sets me up for someone I know all too well, we have also raced before, back during his very first year in stock in 1995 (in 1996/97) #778 AA/SA 10.70 Index Ovr/Und -614 Dial 9.97 Jimmy DeFrank of The California Car Cover Company fame/family...It was he or Don Keen, someone I also know very well from my SoCal and O.C.I.R. days.

And, as a friend told me that night before (if you have to race either one in the morning Gary, you better have your schidt together)...My answer was Ohhhh, I know...and it was...altogether too well. Either 1 is capable of tearing down the tree and hauling it to the other end! I know it, but I get to attempt it first! Then I get to watch wheelies in my rear view mirror. Lol. (I watched the livestream replay so, I knew Jimmy defeated Don before I went to sleep in the car again.

Sunday...Up at 5:00 AM

In the morning just before 9:00 Am we pair up, meet and lane choices are easy, we both get the 1 we want. Jimmy remembers my car (though it was all blue then, I remind him 1995), and he says yup, my first year in Stk Elim. and we shake hands wish each other luck, I needed it....1/2 cup of coffee, a little bit of food, more unloading Scott's dragster....just before, and my stuff is ready, I will attempt to tear it down as would he...No going safe here.
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9:00 AM Sun. Oct 8th Round 2-Race 2 (Left Lane) Index 17.45 EF/S Ov/Un 125 pass #19 ...Do not relax a bit again.17.20 dial again, aaaaand holding my breath... it is not Green -.005 RED (Ok, I now know the true spot is correct, and so am I,I attempted to make it hard on him, but cannot complain, it is the risk we take...when playing 3d chess in racecars, both fast and slow cars 60' 2.352 (at this point I saw my light was on the wrong side of a great light RED, 330 7.025, 1/8th 11.014@ 60.64 MPH, 1,000 14.562, 1/4 out of it 17.575 LOSS on the brakes and lifting as he blows by like a rocket, a full car plus out...and my race week is over, but the crewing is about to start again in earnest, we 4 on Scott's crew need to win this event...and later we do!

Jimmy DeFrank's #'s #778 AA/SA 10.70 Index, Ovr/Und -614 Dial 9.97 R.T. .055 (probably just like Chad Langdon, relaxed a tiny bit as they celebrated 5-7 secs), 60' 1.306, 330 3.979, 1/8 6.271 @ 106.50 MPH, 1,000 8.278 1/4 10.086 @ 118.15 MPH WIN (I am not going to say what the actual shift points were again (down low), but I used them in round Cl1 & Rnd E1, and they were very repeatable, and it would have been just another bracket race (with another very fast ending), and a pretty good 1 at that, just like I remember them, TY Jimmy also for the top end play!).

My LOSS, Jimmy's WIN, but I got to see the end at the finish line w/ a 9.97 in the other lane (still awaiting one with an even faster Factory STK car, & save for 5 thou too quick R.T. on the little end, I would have had a very decent chance on the big end. (I did tap/tap the rev limiter on the 2/3 shift just watching the charge from 330' on down, ergo why the rest of it was slowed as far as incrementally. I wanted to watch that wheelie since I had already fouled out. But I also knew that light was very close to perfect. Just barely on the wrong side of "lets goooooo!"

And, I Had A Blast on my first double Div. Event back...I am here to stay, already looking forward to Las Vegas in November for the next LODRS race!

Right 1st .1992 Right MOV foul, AutoStart On, Rnd # E2 2716/2715 TruStart
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Following our return to Boulder City Sunday night, I stayed over, and by Monday afternoon I had already prepped the car, changed the oil for the first time, and am ready for more fun in the Sun before the off season. i packed only what I will need at the track in the car, taking home a full load.

The car so far, except for my changes, and after that Test n tune Wed. (and catching up with them), so far fantastic, add air to slicks in the AM, add gas after a couple of passes, charge the battery when sitting, warm it up properly, Check tire pressures, and go race.

And the topping was actually having 4 guys- Scott McClay and 3 Crew Members and Winning The 2nd Race of The Double Header in Comp. Elim. w/ his C/ED Combo. (It is a 4 man operation, not a 2 man operation as we were Thurs/ Fri). Helping crew while racing takes the boredom away from the Hurry Up and Wait of STK Elim. Racing, but it is a lot of hard & dirty work (and a real hard struggle if under-crewed).

I will have more this Winter Off Season, after the Las Vegas LODRS, I will also save everyone the round-by-round stuff, and just add the further build stuff / updates I have for the car planned (replace the shifter aftermarket, something I can slam, instead of slow slide), replace the stock ECM/PM w/ a Holley ECU and full engine wiring harness to all sensors and Throttle body, to tap/tap laptop tune finally (the engine is still pulling hard at 7,300 when it hits that rev. limit feature in the stock ECM), convert to full manual brake system, from vac. assist/ add a data collection unit and a few addl. sensors- Engine RPM, Driveshaft RPM, and others, request a combo review, and a few other things.

But, this car now is, if driven the same every pass, is a slow ride, but very consistent now compared to back in 1993-1997 (I am still playing some games on track I cannot play in my garage, or off of the track, as I am collecting data still on the project). It is hard when other than viewing flags on pre- determined tables, and otherwise being locked completely out of the ECM/PM (by the EPA), so you must try things, and log everything on paper and review both the new, and 26-30 yr. old, log book data.

Looking good on paper and in reality so far though...

So, It is not "project go a lot faster" quite yet, on Our "Slow Ride', Take It Easy", as I weigh in Min. at 2,795 lbs. Car and Driver, and raced it at 2,845 lbs. last week or 50 lbs. heavy, and a full 550 lbs heavier than McConnell's "Slo Roller" Dodge Omni).

That old fashioned ancient beam scale at Famoso really stinks, But I love the track, hook, and that tree! (The flies I can live without!)

Again, I wish to really thank the Irving's a Ton! Thank you John & Jon for everything so far my friends. You have made my return much easier, and I certainly appreciate it all, as does my bride of 35+ yrs.

Also, Congratulations to Scott McClay on his win again! Congrat's to all the Class Winners! (I also know why I don't own a dragster, tripping 6 foot long wheelie bars, and head cracking low wing endplates). If it isn't 1 I come home scarred up with, it is the other.

If all of that was not enough, "RIP Donald A. Martin", POP, my Father-in-law & former business partner (who has lived with my Wife and I for well over the last 20 yrs., and her beloved Father), passed away on Friday Evening Oct 6th in a Banner Hospital in west Phoenix, AZ after 2 very serious operations on the prior week Tuesday/ Wednesday Sept 26/27, all happening during and between the double header.

He was able to see (be with), or talk to all 3 of his children, and his grandchildren, & great-grandchildren, and other family members, and it was a very peaceful passing in the last moments.

I wish to also thank Our Own Racer's In Christ. Thank You Gentleman and Lady. (You made things easier and prayerful given the distance).
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