Was it just me?

[CBS]

Jeff,

We have been doing this a long time and have made thousands of hits....so when things don't add up its clearly evident....we may miss the tree once or twice....but not 6 times in a row.....

so there was definitely something not quite right....different is fine...but inconsistent is bad...

we get so few hits at a national...so far apart its hard to tell sometimes...but we made 14 runs at the

Divisional.....not to mention the right lane is quite a bit tighter than the left.....

Rock Haas

[Mike Fuqua]

I am not sure if anyone has seen the pics or not. I have the picture of pete and Sal racing in comp.
Pete was 2ft ahead and sal got the win. The ESPN guys told sal about it.
I have the pics, also have the pic of me .0006 behind Erks 1st rd of the all stars, Funny thing , looks to me like I was 8 inches ahead. We were still about 4" from the stripe with the pic so who knows on my run.
I would post them here but I do not know how. I will Gladly e-mail them to someone that knows how to post them.

my e-mail is Mike@nitroplate.com

The pics are interesting to say the least.

Mike Fuqua
615-824-2811
www.Fuquatoolanddie.com

[SSTRACER323]

Photos from Mike Fuqua

[bighead]

Originally Posted by CBS

Jeff,

We have been doing this a long time and have made thousands of hits....so when things don't add up its clearly evident....we may miss the tree once or twice....but not 6 times in a row.....

so there was definitely something not quite right....different is fine...but inconsistent is bad...

we get so few hits at a national...so far apart its hard to tell sometimes...but we made 14 runs at the

Divisional.....not to mention the right lane is quite a bit tighter than the left.....

Rock Haas

The quote of all quotes. Rock you are so very true......

Bighead

[sc3912]

Look at the pics closely, look at the painted lines on the wall, they are not straight. They are angled to the left at the top. Also look at the fence posts. The left ones angle to the left. The ones in the center appear to be straight up and the ones to the right appear to be angled to the right. I remember reading somewhere about how pixels are stacked or something, I cant remember , but I thought that the accuracy of still pics taken from video was off. In the 2nd pic, is it possible that the front of the roadster was higher than the beams and the first thing that the beam saw was the wheels? I still agree that 66 has some type of timing issue.

[Jeff Foster]

Rock guys are saying they saw it at the nats. but no one as far as I know mentioned it to anyone at the race where I could have looked at it.
As for the 2 pictures, the lines on the wall and ground are refreance points the painters rarely get the lines dead in line with the sensors. As for the bottom photo it looks like the front bumper is higher than the beams, so the nose of Sals car got there before the tires of the roadster.

[Regan Wilson]

Originally Posted by Jeff Foster

Rock guys are saying they saw it at the nats. but no one as far as I know mentioned it to anyone at the race where I could have looked at it.
As for the 2 pictures, the lines on the wall and ground are refreance points the painters rarely get the lines dead in line with the sensors. As for the bottom photo it looks like the front bumper is higher than the beams, so the nose of Sals car got there before the tires of the roadster.

I watched my Allstars loss a few times in slow motion . Jeff got the stripe by .006 ! On the video (from tv) I saw that he had it by half a tire (both of us tripping the beams with the tires). It looks to me that the nose of Sal's car tripped the beams but Pete's tire did .

[sstSteveM]

I guess this proves the effectiveness of the so-called "stripe taker".....

Do you guys really want the timing system messed with in the middle of a race? Say it gets looked at after a couple of time runs and determined a fix is needed before elims....I guess you would have to give everyone 1 more time shot? It's a pretty crappy and touchy situation.
I am interested in how the timing system is prepared before each event, is the height and distance between the beams checked at both ends each race? Are the dimensions of the projected beam measured? Are the lenses cleaned at the beginning of each day? Is the resistance checked?

man I hate computers....

-steve

[bighead]

Steve

All very good questions. Working on the timing system could be compared to every day maintenance on our race cars. If something is broke, fix it, even between rounds. There is no perfect answer to your question, we can only hope that during a race if there appears to be an electronics glitz/glitch?, that we as racers would have the oppurtunity to present some credible evidence that there may be a problem. I felt helpless last weekend and thought my stuff was broke. The track and electronics should be maintained and checked and verified every morning before any car goes down the track, but if everyhing "seems" ok then why check it? Nothing frustates me more than testing Thursday before an event, only to find out they changed the roll out or reaction time compensation Friday morning.

Bighead