Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

[Rat Patrol]

Thanks both for your help.

DC - I posted an abbreviated version if your STOCK list (no weight break info, no engine data) on a Group on FB - A couple of guys added their 2c - these were guys who raced back then - Tom Myl and Tommy Laird.....so took it at face value and changed it.

Callahan
Iaconio
Rowe (350/255hp Nova)

Another guy posted what he claimed were the correct cars for a couple - I don’t know how he knows......he’s a dislikeable bloke...but I put his opinion in brackets at the end - be interested to know what you guys think?


69 NATIONALS Top Stock Class Winners

A/S - P Scalia - 69 Camaro - 11.81 @ 116.73. (PICTURED)
A/SA - H Lang - 63 Plymouth Savoy - 11.65 @ 111.11
B/S - Tom Schumacher - 67 Fairlane - 12.09
B/SA-
C/S- Norm Fryer - 66 Chev Biscayne - 12.06 @ 110.70
C/SA - Tritak/Morgan - 63 Plymouth - 12.42 @ 91.42
D/S - William Robertson - Camaro Z28- 12.24 @ 109.89
D/SA - B Bunker - Pontiac GTO - 12.45 @ 110.97
E/S - D Durbin - Camaro Z28 - 12.25 @ 112.21
E/SA - T Callahan - 63 Fury - 12.60 @ 101.46 (62 Fury)
F/S - J Marks - Olds W30 - 12.44 @ 101.69
F/SA- Dick Simon - Fairlane 500 - 12.74 @ 100.67 (W31 Olds)
G/S - Larry Lombardo - 61 Corvette - 14.32 @ 64.79
G/SA- Bob Burkett - 62 Dodge Wagon - 13.17 @ 92.40
H/S- Frank Iaconio - 57 Chev 150 - 14.47 @ 71.48
H/SA - Merkle - Fairlane - 13.21 @ 93.85
I/S - B. Rowe - 69 Nova - 12.66 @ 109.48
I/SA - Thropp - 57 Pontiac Chieftan - 13.46 @ 95.64
J/S - Morrison - 57 Chev 210 - 13.03 @ 103.32
J/SA - Dougherty - 57 Chev 150 delivery - 13.32 @ 104.16
K/S - Allen-Kling - 57 Chev Wagon - 15.44 @ 56.35
K/SA- W Walker - 57 Chev Delivery - 13.60 @ 102.73
L/S - D Filo - Unknown - 13.58 @ 100.67
L/SA- G Cureton - 56 Chev Delivery - 13.66 @ 99.88
M/S - I Vaubel - 56 Chev 210 - 13.71 @ 100.44
M/SA - Wayne Jesel - 56 Chev Delivery- 13.90 @ 96.68
N/S - J Machula - 55 Chev 150 - 13.78 @ 98.40
N/SA - Marv Ripes - 67 Camaro vert - 14.11 @ 86.78 (57 210 Delivery)
O/S- Westberg/Westfall - 55 Chev 210 - 14.18 @ 84.28
O/SA
P/S - Bob Beckett - 57 Chev Sedan 210 - 15.06 @ 92.11
P/SA
Q/S - Dave Boertman - 59 Chev Biscayne - 15.17 @ 60.36
Q/SA
R/S- Tom Neja - 57 Chev Wagon 150 -15.37 @ 74.26
R/SA
T/S - Ivar Smietniks - 52 Oldsmobile 88 - 15.83 @ 86.87
T/SA
U/S - Ted Harbit - 51 Studebaker - 16.22 @ 82.64
U/SA
V/S - D Hamburger - 50 Oldsmobile - 16.55 @ 82.11
V/SA

[DeuceCoupe]

Good finds!
Between Zuckerberg & Branson my FB account is broken, trying to get back over there but FB has no customer service whatsoever.

H/S Iaconio, not sure how I got 210, 150 looks right from the pic.
I/S I'd already found the Rowe Nova, not the best fit but there it is.

P/S Boyce shows a picture of Beckett / Beckerts car, a wagon.

E/SA Callahan, Fury has to be a 62, no 63 Fury fits class.

F/SA Simon - both Boyce and the Drag News narrative I have say 67 Ford, but the 68 or 69 W31 F-85 is a good fit too. The name Dick Simon doesnt ring a bell with the Ford folks so that one's still open.

N/SA Ripes - Drag News says 67 Camaro but a 327/210hp-2v fits, pretty rare to see a 2bbl. Boyce says he ran Barkley's old car which was not a sedan deliv. But a Sedan Deliv makes sense, though Ripes was a powerglide converter pioneer so unusual for him to run a hydramatic which was trendy in the sedan delivery until they got banned for 1970.

Getting pretty close on this sheet, less vague than many of them!

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

F/SA Simon - both Boyce and the Drag News narrative I have say 67 Ford, but the 68 or 69 W31 F-85 is a good fit too. The name Dick Simon doesnt ring a bell with the Ford folks so that one's still open.

You're not asking the right Ford people if they don't know who Dick Simon is.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

You're not asking the right Ford people if they don't know who Dick Simon is.

Steve,
Well thanks for that! Sounds like 67 Ford is right then.

See the pg4 tables I did - my best guess there is a Fairlane 390gt/320hp.
2-door sedan, W/P=10.22.

Any recollection of what cars Dick Simon ran?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

Steve,
Well thanks for that! Sounds like 67 Ford is right then.

See the pg4 tables I did - my best guess there is a Fairlane 390gt/320hp.
2-door sedan, W/P=10.22.

Any recollection of what cars Dick Simon ran?

67 Fairlane 500 conv. with a 427/410.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

67 Fairlane 500 conv. with a 427/410.

Ok but unless it was a 427-2bbl (LOL) it wont fit class:
3688/410=9.00
Fairlane Convertible 427/410hp
That would run up in D/S=9.00 or D/SA=9.00 class.

That's why I guessed the 390gt/320hp, which, with its lower rating (vs the 66 at 335hp) but the same legal C6AE-R heads and 428pi aluminum intake, was not too bad of a combo.

The 390gt Mustangs fit E/S=9.50 class, and the 289hp/271 Mustangs fit G/S=10.50 class.

A Mustang Convertible 390gt/320 fits F/SA=10.00 at
3235/320=10.11
So, could be a Fairlane 2dr post or Mustang Convert.

I cant get anything else to fit, IF its a 67 Ford.
Usually if it's a Mustang they'll say that, and "Ford" usually means eg Galaxie or Fairlane so I guessed the Fairlane that fit.

A big Ford 2dr Ranch Wagon fits at
4203/410=10.25
Legal in the current class guide, but I didn't think Ford put the 427 in wagons which is how Charbonneau's 427 Fairlane wagon later got banned as of 1970 or so.

But this DOES fit -
Do you think it could be a 427 Wagon?

[Stan Weiss]

This says C/SA for Dick Simon



https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ACE-CAR-161420


Stan

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Stan Weiss

This says C/SA for Dick Simon



https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Even...ACE-CAR-161420


Stan

C/SA=9.00 makes sense for the Fairlane Convert 427/410 shown.
In 1968, and again from 1973-up, NHRA had
C/SA=9.00-9.49
It says Simon set records in the Fairlane Convert 427/410- I cant find them so I wonder if they were set in the 1973-up timeframe?

But the 1969 Indy results say Simon in D/SA=10.00 class, and the 427 makes too much power to go there except in that big Ford wagon.

[Steve Stasko]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

C/SA=9.00 makes sense for the Fairlane Convert 427/410 shown.
In 1968, and again from 1973-up, NHRA had
C/SA=9.00-9.49
It says Simon set records in the Fairlane Convert 427/410- I cant find them so I wonder if they were set in the 1973-up timeframe?

But the 1969 Indy results say Simon in D/SA=10.00 class, and the 427 makes too much power to go there except in that big Ford wagon.

It's my understanding that the Fairlane was not a factory 427 car.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Steve Stasko

It's my understanding that the Fairlane was not a factory 427 car.

It sure was!
1966: About 57 built, AFAIK all hardtops, glass hood, almost all dual quad, maybe a few single quad.

1967: About 229 427 Fairlanes built and 60 427 Comets built. My understanding is all were FACTORY with flat STEEL hoods, but a Ford letter made the glass hood legal. All were built as 4speeds but again a Ford letter made the C6 auto NHRA legal. Most or all were 2dr post or hardtop cars, although the 427 is listed for the convertible too, and the Fairlane wagon (never heard of one built though, neither had NHRA), and the hardtop XL, but not the hardtop GT.

TODAY, you can run the 427 in just about any 66-67 Fairlane you want, but the rules were a little tighter from 68-70.

Lots of wins for the 427/410-4v flat hood Fairlane, and lots of SS wins for the glass hood 427/425-8v Fairlane even though it was factored to 460-472hp by NHRA back in the 1967-71 era.