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Old 02-04-2020, 08:59 AM   #1
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Just got some new info. As said, I've never before seen or heard of any 2-barrel Pontiac Stockers.

But, an eyewitness says that he remembers that Don Himes used to run a Pontiac Lemans wagon, with a 2-barrel. Said he don't remember it being a high qualifier, but quick enuff to compete. This was before Don had the GP.

I'll just take a guess that it was a '73 wagon with the 350 2-barrel. And, may have been the car that got NHRA to lower the hp factor. But, it could have had a 400 2-barrel.

Anybody else remember this car ?

Don't have any pics of it. But i did find a nice pic of a '73 wagon with a GTO front on it.
It was a 350/2V car. I think that it ran in either W or X/SA during the "Pure Stock" era. I believe that he had a 77 LeMans wagon body stashed somewhere and he always wanted to do a 6X 400 for Q/SA.
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Umm, the 73/350/224 has the 1.25V carb and to my knowledge nobody runs it. The popular combo is the 69-70/350/224 combo and it uses a 1.375V carb. BIG difference.
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Old 02-05-2020, 01:25 PM   #3
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It was a 350/2V car. I think that it ran in either W or X/SA during the "Pure Stock" era. I believe that he had a 77 LeMans wagon body stashed somewhere and he always wanted to do a 6X 400 for Q/SA.
http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...9&postcount=20

http://classracer.com/classforum/sho...&postcount=286

So, was that 4-door Lemans ever built ? Was there a build thread for it ?

Never mind, I found it. There was a build thread. But it ended before the car was finished. He was planning a 2-barrel 350.

http://classracer.com/classforum/showthread.php?t=49597

Here's what I found in the last post. That kinda seals the deal for NOT running a Pontiac 350, with one of the small 2-barrels.

"Originally Posted by Danny Ashley View Post
Back in the late 80's when I had my 1974 GTO I considered the 2-bbl. because that body was a one engine combination for a 4-bbl. I obtained a manifold and carburetor and knowing that the late W.A.Lee worked on 2-bbl's, I sent it to him. He called me up and said they had tried it already and that the carb was too small and it would slow the car one and a half seconds. I had looked at Allen Peters at the time and made my decision off him but W.A. informed me that the '69 Chevy had a much larger venturi. He didn't want to do it because he felt I was wasting my time and sent it back. I really didn't think it would kill it that much so I decided to try it anyway.
It was in the fall and we had decent air but nothing like I had just ran at the Keystones where I was no.1 qualifier and ran 11.97 in L/SA which was really quick for that time. The car at that time with the 2 bbl. was P/SA and the index was an odd number for some reason of 13.54. My first pass was 13.53 followed by a 13.52. The car had no power. I had to almost floor it to do a burnout. I came back and installed the 4-bbl. set-up which is quick to do on a Pontiac and went right back up and went 12.22. I'll admit that the car could go quicker with maybe more gear, smaller headers, cam change, etc. but it didn't look worth the time and money to flogg it out especially when the 4bbl. was so good.
One last thought. Please don't base the 2bbl. combination off of Bill Rink's car. Bill is a good friend and carburetor customer and I can tell you that his engine is a "Top Shelf" Parson & Meyers piece as is everything else on the car. Definitely not a "Dime Rocket". Just a "Rocket" in it's day."

Seems that the only way to run a 350 or larger Pontiac engine with a 2-barrel is to get NHRA to lower the index for the car to a reasonable level. So, basically, it's Q-jet, or not at all.

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