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Old 02-16-2021, 09:21 PM   #1
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I got an update from Mr. Billy the other day with news that the header is done. He was unable to upload the pictures, so he sent them to me to see if I could get them uploaded, so here they are. Couple miscellaneous pictures of the car in here as well.
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Old 02-16-2021, 10:11 PM   #2
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I got an update from Mr. Billy the other day with news that the header is done. He was unable to upload the pictures, so he sent them to me to see if I could get them uploaded, so here they are. Couple miscellaneous pictures of the car in here as well.
That's not Billy's trailer, is it? ;-)
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That's not Billy's trailer, is it? ;-)
Someone vandalized it and took off the patina when he wasn’t looking....
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Old 02-17-2021, 08:14 AM   #4
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I got an update from Mr. Billy the other day with news that the header is done. He was unable to upload the pictures, so he sent them to me to see if I could get them uploaded, so here they are. Couple miscellaneous pictures of the car in here as well.
How long are the primary pipes?
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35" and that's not the collector that I'll be using.
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I've spent a couple of hours removing the power brake booster and making up an "adapter" to mount the master cylinder in the stock location and not have to mount it under the windshield. I haven't changed the pedal ratio yet as I want to give it a try as it is first. The power assist was really giving me issues when I was staging the car. It didn't seem to bother Doug though. Hmmm.
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wound up being a major PITA to make right. Removing the booster made the car difficult to stage even for Doug so I've spent the last couple of days "re-engineering" the stock pedal assy. The OEM assy. is quite complicated so I went to my favorite place (junkyard) and got another Cavalier assy. and an 80s Camaro assy. and "blended" the two together. I now have a 6-1 pedal ratio (OEM was between 3+ 4-1) and a nice feeling brake pedal.
My plans for this week are to build a couple of different collectors and see if I can make the header work a bit better.
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Here are some pictures Billy sent me to upload on here.
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Hey all you Mopar guys! Check out the Neon (with chute) that was stalking us all day.
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Old 04-11-2021, 09:53 AM   #9
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This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
wound up being a major PITA to make right. Removing the booster made the car difficult to stage even for Doug so I've spent the last couple of days "re-engineering" the stock pedal assy. The OEM assy. is quite complicated so I went to my favorite place (junkyard) and got another Cavalier assy. and an 80s Camaro assy. and "blended" the two together. I now have a 6-1 pedal ratio (OEM was between 3+ 4-1) and a nice feeling brake pedal.
My plans for this week are to build a couple of different collectors and see if I can make the header work a bit better.
Well, in the openness of "fair-and-honest" reporting I guess that I should mention our last outing at Cecil. I don't really WANT to as it wasn't a banner day but I guess that it could have been worse. I at least learned some stuff.
The brakes worked out great! Doug could hold the car at 3 grand if he wanted to.
I built 2 different collectors for the car. The original one was 2 3/4" dia and about 15" long. I built one 2 1/4" and 15" and a second 2" and 24" planning on cutting it down.
I don't have my timeslips and notes with me but we made 7 runs all between a 15.25 and 15.28. Not too bad for changing things between runs. It wasn't a very good day, low baro., high humidity and head wind but at least the sun was shining. As I changed the collectors, we started to see a pattern develop. It went it's best MPH (by 1 full MPH!) with the 2" collector cut to about 10" long but it went it's best ET (15.25) with the original collector.
This past week, I was able to find some specs on the original cams and although they're both very small, the exhaust cam is really small. I'm starting to think that the restriction that is cast into the original exhaust manifold is there for a reason (duh, gee do ya think?). At any rate, Comp DOES make a "streetable" cam set that is a bunch bigger than the original ones and is under my .430 lift limit. I guess that I've got to buy some cams.
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Old 04-11-2021, 11:14 AM   #10
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Billy,
Since it is DOHC. Have you thought about playing with the phasing of each cam before you try new cams? Unlike a single cam setup you can change LSA / overlap.

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