Project - NHRA Stock and S/S results 61-68

[oldskool]

"...The 61 Cat/Ventura 389/333hp has a W/P of just over 11, which would run way down in H/SA=11.00 class in 1969..."


Don't know about the exact math. But that sounds reasonable.

Below is a pic of the Moore '61 368hp car. Caption says it set the F/S record in '69. So, if that caption is correct, then with a 333hp engine, it would have to run a lower class than F.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

OK wait:
I have Davisson winning 69 Winter D/S=9.00 in a 62 Cat 421SD.

McClelland in 69 Spring D/SA=9.00, also 62 Cat 421SD
Sterling in 69 Spring D/S=9.00, again 62 Cat 421SD

The 61 Cat/Ventura 389/333hp has a W/P of just over 11, which would run way down in H/SA=11.00 class in 1969.

The Wolf car 69 Spring B/SA=8.00 could not be a 62 Cat 421SD - those cars are just too heavy.
The lightest aluminum 62 421 SuperDuty Cat I see is the aluminum front 2-door sedan at
3609/405=8.91 which would run in C/SA=8.50 but a bad fit.
The big 421SD always ran at W/P=9.01 from 1968-up which would be D/S=9.00 or D/SA=9.00 in 1969.

A 63 Swiss Cheese Cat could run up in B/SA=8.00 but those were never stock legal - not enough made.

OK, I’m with the program now! I was working backwards...assuming less power = lower class....but forgot about weight.

So in Summary

- Wolf was NOT a Cat , either 333hp or 405hp
- The 333hp cars w ould have run very low classes

I think I’ll just have to take your best guess on Wolf’s car.

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

DC - Your 69 Indy list has a Z28 winning E/Stock (Durbin)....so not sure how one could also win D/Stock?

Sorry if that sends you back to the drawing board....

Oh that's an easier one. For THAT YEAR, factored to 320hp,
67 Z28 = 9.23 fits D/S=9.00
68 Z28 = 9.59 fits E/S=9.50
69 Z28 = 10.05 fits F/S=10.00 but didnt win that class

I've heard 428CJ guys complain about having to run against the little toy Z28 cars. Well, the early Camaros were just LIGHT - and the Z28 had a monster cam, and a bigger carb than the 428CJ, so they made some power.

[Rat Patrol]

Originally Posted by DeuceCoupe

Oh that's an easier one. For THAT YEAR, factored to 320hp,
67 Z28 = 9.23 fits D/S=9.00
68 Z28 = 9.59 fits E/S=9.50
69 Z28 = 10.05 fits F/S=10.00 but didnt win that class

I've heard 428CJ guys complain about having to run against the little toy Z28 cars. Well, the early Camaros were just LIGHT - and the Z28 had a monster cam, and a bigger carb than the 428CJ, so they made some power.

Sorry..my point was if you have Robertson winning D/Stock 69 Indy, how can Durbin have won E Stock in the same car?

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

Sorry..my point was if you have Robertson winning D/Stock 69 Indy, how can Durbin have won E Stock in the same car?

OK I looked back at the chart (pg4) but those look ok
D/S=9.00 67 Camaro Robertson
E/S=9.50 68 Camaro Durbin

What I do have is D/S=9.00 Robertson BUICK which is what the narrative said but it's wrong. No Buick up that high for one thing but I have Robertson's car picture from Peterson, it's a Camaro.

Those charts will need some updating after all this, but that's the point!

photo of Robertson's 67 Z28 at 69 Indy:
https://archive.petersen.org/pages/p...php?ref=326967

[DeuceCoupe]

Originally Posted by Rat Patrol

They got the car down to high 11s with slicks.

Main thing is, they confirm SS/B with R code, SS/C with W Code

Mag is dated Sept 67.

A SUPERB find indeed. I became convinced that the glass hood 427-4v Fairlanes ran in SS/C.770 in 1967 by a much more convoluted process. Good old Roger Huntington, getting right down to it.

But by late 1968, that 4v glass hood combo disappears from the NHRA guide, and then the records set by those cars vanish too. So that never-factory combo went away, at least until the last few years. It's legal again now. Makes our sleuthing even more difficult. We'll get there.