Indy -SS first round hemi car no shows - Page 2

boostedf22c · 09-01-2013, 01:19 PM

Personally I think they are special. They are the only cars that sparked my interest into Superstock years ago. I know a lot of people come to watch the HEMI Challenge, so it would seem that many others think they are special too.

What they do with those cars is amazing in my eyes.

Alan Roehrich · 09-01-2013, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Julie Jordan

At that event they are "special". Hemi Challenge, racing the final round under the lights on Friday night, a big payday. You would not see that number of hemi cars show up for any other national event.

Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against the cars, or the people who own them, the cars are cool, and I know a few of those people. But "special" was bought for them. And the truth is, there is nothing good about elevating a particular group of cars or people above everything else in the same class and giving them special treatment.

Kevin Panzino · 09-01-2013, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

I disagree completely, just because they have a Hemi car does NOT make the special at all. They're no better, and no more important, than any other competitor. Just because they want to spend $250K+ on a particular car doesn't make them anything other than just another Super Stock competitor.

Those cars are no more special than a Thunderbolt, a 427 Fairlane, a ZL-1 Camaro, a Max Wedge, or a Corvette with a 427 L-88 or L-72.

If you want to be "special", turn pro and join the big circus.

Agreed 100%.

Dan Bernay · 09-01-2013, 02:02 PM

This happens every year.
Why so surprised ?

jmcarter · 09-01-2013, 03:31 PM

The Hemi cars no more special than the others named? Any of the current SS/B cars (T-bolts, Vettes, etc), Gove's Daytona, Carey's S2000, Colvert's Mustang, (and I could name many more) are all indeed special but the AH cars represent the largest single collection and unique class of cars and therefore they've earned their own special class and status at Indy. I didn't make it so, the whole racing community made it so...end of story.

Ed Wright · 09-01-2013, 03:39 PM

Alan is right. Their "special" status at this race was bought for them. I love those cars, just as I love the T-Bolts. But they are no more special than any other factory race car from that era.

Alan Roehrich · 09-01-2013, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcarter

The Hemi cars no more special than the others named? Any of the current SS/B cars (T-bolts, Vettes, etc), Gove's Daytona, Carey's S2000, Colvert's Mustang, (and I could name many more) are all indeed special but the AH cars represent the largest single collection and unique class of cars and therefore they've earned their own special class and status at Indy. I didn't make it so, the whole racing community made it so...end of story.

No, MOPAR bought them their own show, and their own class, end of story. I don't remember any point in history where everyone in Super Stock was polled and asked if the Hemi cars were so special they deserved their own race and other special consideration.

Cool cars, owned by good people? Absolutely.

Deserving of any special consideration? Not in the least.

Chad Rhodes · 09-01-2013, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Alan Roehrich

No, MOPAR bought them their own show, and their own class, end of story. I don't remember any point in history where everyone in Super Stock was polled and asked if the Hemi cars were so special they deserved their own race and other special consideration.

Cool cars, owned by good people? Absolutely.

Deserving of any special consideration? Not in the least.

Don't forget the much wider grey area in SS/AH

442OLDS · 09-01-2013, 05:45 PM

It happens every year,but to me,it is very silly to have a perfectly good race car and be qualified in a field where 7 round wins can crown you a U.S. Nationals Super Stock title,and then you leave because" Its not worth it".Never has and never will made any sense to me.

Ed Wright · 09-01-2013, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 442OLDS

It happens every year,but to me,it is very silly to have a perfectly good race car and be qualified in a field where 7 round wins can crown you a U.S. Nationals Super Stock title,and then you leave because" Its not worth it".Never has and never will made any sense to me.

This doesn't really make sense to me either:

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...ding-ssah-cars

Yeah, they can run SS, but don't have to follow the same rules we do.

09-01-2013, 01:19 PM	#11
boostedf22c Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Lebanon, IN Posts: 483 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Indy -SS first round hemi car no shows Personally I think they are special. They are the only cars that sparked my interest into Superstock years ago. I know a lot of people come to watch the HEMI Challenge, so it would seem that many others think they are special too. What they do with those cars is amazing in my eyes. __________________ Carey Bales 316D DD/AT www.racetactics.net Last edited by boostedf22c; 09-01-2013 at 01:23 PM.

09-01-2013, 02:02 PM	#14
Dan Bernay Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Connecticut Posts: 391 Likes: 2 Liked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Indy -SS first round hemi car no shows This happens every year. Why so surprised ?

09-01-2013, 03:31 PM	#15
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,138 Likes: 2,016 Liked 2,751 Times in 862 Posts	Re: Indy -SS first round hemi car no shows The Hemi cars no more special than the others named? Any of the current SS/B cars (T-bolts, Vettes, etc), Gove's Daytona, Carey's S2000, Colvert's Mustang, (and I could name many more) are all indeed special but the AH cars represent the largest single collection and unique class of cars and therefore they've earned their own special class and status at Indy. I didn't make it so, the whole racing community made it so...end of story. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock

09-01-2013, 03:39 PM	#16
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 389 Times in 168 Posts	Re: Indy -SS first round hemi car no shows Alan is right. Their "special" status at this race was bought for them. I love those cars, just as I love the T-Bolts. But they are no more special than any other factory race car from that era. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

09-01-2013, 05:45 PM	#19
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,333 Likes: 5 Liked 262 Times in 100 Posts	Re: Indy -SS first round hemi car no shows It happens every year,but to me,it is very silly to have a perfectly good race car and be qualified in a field where 7 round wins can crown you a U.S. Nationals Super Stock title,and then you leave because" Its not worth it".Never has and never will made any sense to me. Last edited by 442OLDS; 09-01-2013 at 06:03 PM.