1967 Camaro with 283? - Page 2

Paul Ceasrine · 09-23-2011, 10:28 AM

On the 1967 Z-28 302 engine.

The block casting #3892657 used for 1967, was a 327 small journal block.
2.299" mains / 2.000 rod journals
And with 2-Bolt Main Caps.

A special forged steel crankshaft (casting #3815882) was 'tufftrided'.

I've heard of the 283 67' Camaro,,,,,never realized it was an
'export only car',,,with a 4-speed.

But after some research,,,,,found out they were assembled in Switzerland.

Dan Bennett · 09-23-2011, 12:25 PM

I'd never heard of the car, either. You learn something every day.

This trumps my previous weirdest Camaro - the new 67 SS350 I saw sitting on a dealers lot with a bench seat and a 4 speed. It had some ungodly gears in it, I'm thinking either 4.56 or 4.88. It was that dark turquoise green with redline tires, painted wheels, and bottle caps.

It sat there for quite a while and then disappeared. I never saw it again, not even at the tracks in the area.

I don't think the 396 had been released yet, so this would have been the ultimate Camaro at the time.

Dwight Southerland · 09-23-2011, 02:56 PM

The '67 302 engine used the formentioned 657 block, "green" rods from the solid lifter 'Vette engines (which were the small journal version of the famous "pink" rods), a special crankshaft that was nitrite treated, the 30-30 solid lifter Corvette camshaft, foged pistons that had a dome similar to the original dome on the high-cormpression 327s, 2.02-1.60 valve 462 casting number heads, the unique intake manifold, 780 cfm Holley (actually the design carb was a 585 cfm carb, but it never made production), and the Corvette flat windage tray. The intake and carb made the package the killer.

The strangest engine that never made production was a 3-2bbl 350 with the Corvette 350 hp hydraulic cam and big valve heads. If you ever see a copy of an original assembly manual, there are several pages devoted to the installation details of that engine, including a drawing of the engine that used a triangular air cleaner similar to the one on the 3-2bbl Corvettes. Chevrolet had intended a small block package that would have mimicked the big block engines released in the Corvette that year. Production costs and less than acceptable performance in the warranty tests (remember that was the first year for the 5-year, 50,000 mile warranty) caused them to nix it. They were also aware that Ford was stuffing a big-block into the Mustang, Pontiac had planned from the beginning to put a 400 in the Firebird and Chrysler was releasing the 383 in the Barracuda and Dart. They needed a big-block offering so the 396 got the nod over a high-perf small block on the street.

All that info was related to me by a GM engineering manager who worked on the Camaro project. I was introduced to him when I was building my Z28 stocker in 1979.

Billy Nees · 09-23-2011, 03:02 PM

look in a late 60s or early 70s Motors manual and you'll find specs for a 67 Camaro 350 horse 327. I guess the story was that Chevy was considering the 327/350 before the 350/295 was done.

mtkawboy · 09-23-2011, 04:16 PM

A buddy of mine had a 327/325 4 speed in a 68 Nova that was basically a 327/350 only with a Q-jet. I havent seen one of those since, it was a 1 year only deal I think.

Dan Bennett · 09-23-2011, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtkawboy

A buddy of mine had a 327/325 4 speed in a 68 Nova that was basically a 327/350 only with a Q-jet. I havent seen one of those since, it was a 1 year only deal I think.

I had a friend that had that engine in a 67 4 speed Malibu. It was pretty strong though it had some highway gears.

Paul Ceasrine · 09-23-2011, 04:40 PM

Not to muddle up this thread.

But the 327/325HP (Engine Code L-79) was usually found in the
1968 Chevelle Malibu (non-SS car),,,,,,,4-speed only.

Kind of a rare car/engine combo too.

FED 387 · 09-23-2011, 05:41 PM

L79 was the hot lick in the 66-67 Chevy II---Grumpy won a lot of races with his too--my partner has an original 66 L79 Chevy II Hard top NO ITS NOT FOR SALE he has had that car for 25 years now--damn thing is quick

Dennis P Chapman · 09-23-2011, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Bennett

I had a friend that had that engine in a 67 4 speed Malibu. It was pretty strong though it had some highway gears.

I also had a friend when I was in high school that had the same combo. His had gears the car was fast.

Ed Fernandez · 09-23-2011, 11:29 PM

So I guess that 283 camaro was running stock at a non sanctioned NHRA track?

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1967 Camaro with 283? On the 1967 Z-28 302 engine. The block casting #3892657 used for 1967, was a 327 small journal block. 2.299" mains / 2.000 rod journals And with 2-Bolt Main Caps. A special forged steel crankshaft (casting #3815882) was 'tufftrided'. I've heard of the 283 67' Camaro,,,,,never realized it was an 'export only car',,,with a 4-speed. But after some research,,,,,found out they were assembled in Switzerland. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 09-23-2011 at 03:17 PM.

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Dan Bennett Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 368 Likes: 589 Liked 390 Times in 88 Posts	Re: 1967 Camaro with 283? I'd never heard of the car, either. You learn something every day. This trumps my previous weirdest Camaro - the new 67 SS350 I saw sitting on a dealers lot with a bench seat and a 4 speed. It had some ungodly gears in it, I'm thinking either 4.56 or 4.88. It was that dark turquoise green with redline tires, painted wheels, and bottle caps. It sat there for quite a while and then disappeared. I never saw it again, not even at the tracks in the area. I don't think the 396 had been released yet, so this would have been the ultimate Camaro at the time.

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Dwight Southerland VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Arkansas - In the middle of everything. Posts: 1,983 Likes: 54 Liked 726 Times in 177 Posts	Re: 1967 Camaro with 283? The '67 302 engine used the formentioned 657 block, "green" rods from the solid lifter 'Vette engines (which were the small journal version of the famous "pink" rods), a special crankshaft that was nitrite treated, the 30-30 solid lifter Corvette camshaft, foged pistons that had a dome similar to the original dome on the high-cormpression 327s, 2.02-1.60 valve 462 casting number heads, the unique intake manifold, 780 cfm Holley (actually the design carb was a 585 cfm carb, but it never made production), and the Corvette flat windage tray. The intake and carb made the package the killer. The strangest engine that never made production was a 3-2bbl 350 with the Corvette 350 hp hydraulic cam and big valve heads. If you ever see a copy of an original assembly manual, there are several pages devoted to the installation details of that engine, including a drawing of the engine that used a triangular air cleaner similar to the one on the 3-2bbl Corvettes. Chevrolet had intended a small block package that would have mimicked the big block engines released in the Corvette that year. Production costs and less than acceptable performance in the warranty tests (remember that was the first year for the 5-year, 50,000 mile warranty) caused them to nix it. They were also aware that Ford was stuffing a big-block into the Mustang, Pontiac had planned from the beginning to put a 400 in the Firebird and Chrysler was releasing the 383 in the Barracuda and Dart. They needed a big-block offering so the 396 got the nod over a high-perf small block on the street. All that info was related to me by a GM engineering manager who worked on the Camaro project. I was introduced to him when I was building my Z28 stocker in 1979.

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mtkawboy Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Billings Mt Posts: 279 Likes: 123 Liked 54 Times in 18 Posts	Re: 1967 Camaro with 283? A buddy of mine had a 327/325 4 speed in a 68 Nova that was basically a 327/350 only with a Q-jet. I havent seen one of those since, it was a 1 year only deal I think.

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Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: 1967 Camaro with 283? Not to muddle up this thread. But the 327/325HP (Engine Code L-79) was usually found in the 1968 Chevelle Malibu (non-SS car),,,,,,,4-speed only. Kind of a rare car/engine combo too.

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FED 387 VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,358 Likes: 360 Liked 282 Times in 152 Posts	Re: 1967 Camaro with 283? L79 was the hot lick in the 66-67 Chevy II---Grumpy won a lot of races with his too--my partner has an original 66 L79 Chevy II Hard top NO ITS NOT FOR SALE he has had that car for 25 years now--damn thing is quick

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