Who does class & numbers? - Page 2

Robert Simpson · 10-01-2009, 02:56 PM

What is Bruce's e-mail?

Mark Callanan · 10-01-2009, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Robert Simpson

What is Bruce's e-mail?

bruce80@verizon.net

BobUnkefer · 10-01-2009, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toddwell

Geez, ANY local sign company ought to be able to make what you need same or next day, people with vinyl cutters are everywhere!

Todd

Todd, 2 reasons for asking the question on here

1. Support of the fellow racers (as was already mentioned) Beard, Scott Brown, Accelerated Graphics and a copule of others have responded, and ALL either race or are involved in the sport.

2. the one time I tried the local sign shop, it took three trips to get it right. If they don't race they generally don't understand exactly what we need, a fellow racer does. The sign shop had trouble getting the class designation layout right, even after I drew it out for them.

Unk

BobUnkefer · 10-01-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Beth Kieffer

Soon?

quite probably, and possibly even in a blue oval for a race or two?!

Unk

Toddwell · 10-03-2009, 03:10 PM

Having worked in the sign industry as an old school signpainter and race car letterer, I tend to have a built-in resentment for ANY vinyl sign shop, since it has all but ruined the actual craft of sign making.

Now, anyone can go out and buy a vinyl cutter and call themselves a sign maker, without any sort of design sense or training whatsoever. I invested a lot of years learning to hand letter and design beautiful painted signage, only to have the craft rendered almost obsolete just as I was getting proficient. Well done, hand painted sign work is an artform that has all but disappeared, except for a few hand letterers around the country that still practice the craft. I still paint signs and letter vehicles when a customer asks for it, but that doesn't happen too much any more.

I apologize if I sounded angry, I just read this thread and it touched a nerve a little bit.

Todd

Bob Pagano · 10-03-2009, 03:32 PM

I can understand your anger as back in the day my cars were done by a person like you but we did not care about our paint jobs back then. Try taking off gold leaf. With todays high dollar paint jobs we have vinyl that comes off the body with a heat gun and Mr Beard is also a designer that has come up with logos and graphic's for many cars and companies. So while paint has its place so dose a Vinyl Designer, go to his website and look at some of his work. Regards, bp.

BobUnkefer · 10-03-2009, 07:58 PM

Todd,

Understand the resentment now that you've explained, and I'm old enough to appreciate the artwork that used to appear on race cars. Being involved in the collision industry for the last 30 years, I probably appreciate quality paintwork & artwork more so than most.

I remember when Nelson Carters SuperChief Dodge Charger was unveiled, beautiful paint & art work covered the car. And that was just one that caught the attention when I was,,,,,, younger.

Right now tho, I just need numbers & letters to get me to the end of the year, and for that vinyl will suffice. And for those, I'll support a fellow racer.

Unk

Robert Simpson · 10-07-2009, 05:45 AM

Bob thanks for the info.

JMatt · 10-07-2009, 09:36 PM

Spent the last couple days working with Michael Beard. He's prompt, creative, reasonably-priced, and seems like an all-around good guy.

Can't wait to get my new numbers in.

Ron Infantino · 10-08-2009, 06:57 AM

Need contact info for Michael Beard

TX

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10-01-2009, 02:56 PM	#11
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 803 Likes: 6 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? What is Bruce's e-mail?

10-03-2009, 03:10 PM	#15
Toddwell Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 21 Likes: 1 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? Having worked in the sign industry as an old school signpainter and race car letterer, I tend to have a built-in resentment for ANY vinyl sign shop, since it has all but ruined the actual craft of sign making. Now, anyone can go out and buy a vinyl cutter and call themselves a sign maker, without any sort of design sense or training whatsoever. I invested a lot of years learning to hand letter and design beautiful painted signage, only to have the craft rendered almost obsolete just as I was getting proficient. Well done, hand painted sign work is an artform that has all but disappeared, except for a few hand letterers around the country that still practice the craft. I still paint signs and letter vehicles when a customer asks for it, but that doesn't happen too much any more. I apologize if I sounded angry, I just read this thread and it touched a nerve a little bit. Todd

10-03-2009, 03:32 PM	#16
Bob Pagano VIP Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: New Holland, PA Mooresville,NC Posts: 1,163 Likes: 212 Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? I can understand your anger as back in the day my cars were done by a person like you but we did not care about our paint jobs back then. Try taking off gold leaf. With todays high dollar paint jobs we have vinyl that comes off the body with a heat gun and Mr Beard is also a designer that has come up with logos and graphic's for many cars and companies. So while paint has its place so dose a Vinyl Designer, go to his website and look at some of his work. Regards, bp. __________________ Bob Pagano A/SA

10-03-2009, 07:58 PM	#17
BobUnkefer Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 465 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? Todd, Understand the resentment now that you've explained, and I'm old enough to appreciate the artwork that used to appear on race cars. Being involved in the collision industry for the last 30 years, I probably appreciate quality paintwork & artwork more so than most. I remember when Nelson Carters SuperChief Dodge Charger was unveiled, beautiful paint & art work covered the car. And that was just one that caught the attention when I was,,,,,, younger. Right now tho, I just need numbers & letters to get me to the end of the year, and for that vinyl will suffice. And for those, I'll support a fellow racer. Unk

10-07-2009, 05:45 AM	#18
Robert Simpson Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida Posts: 803 Likes: 6 Liked 20 Times in 12 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? Bob thanks for the info.

10-07-2009, 09:36 PM	#19
JMatt Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? Spent the last couple days working with Michael Beard. He's prompt, creative, reasonably-priced, and seems like an all-around good guy. Can't wait to get my new numbers in.

10-08-2009, 06:57 AM	#20
Ron Infantino Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 75 Likes: 0 Liked 15 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Who does class & numbers? Need contact info for Michael Beard TX Ron Infantino __________________ F/SA 1049 STOCK