Lvd td issues

[jayork1331]

Originally Posted by masracing

Some Facts and Some Observations that have failed to be mentioned

Approximately one year ago wayne came up with the idea to put together a top dragster series at Lebanon Valley He put together a Pilot race thanks to the help of Andy from Best Sanitation and Rick from A-1 Autobody. It was a hit. Prior to that the only time your read about LVD on the internet was someone bashing the place. he took the steps to do something positive for the track.

Over the winter through the hard work of Wayne and Scott
Best Sanitation
A-1 Autobody
Innovative Performance
Ken Moses Racing Transmissions
H&H Masonary
and Kinsella Carpentry
all stepped up and put there money up to make this deal work. They did not have to do that but they did it for us to have a place to race. No One has put a single thank you to any of them up here!

The track has stepped up and given us conditions capable of getting six second cars down the track routinely that is a big accomplishment.

At the beginning of the season the fields were a little short. Howard Commander reached into his own pocket to fill the payouts. He did not have to do this. I can tell you that any other track with the exception maybe of Atco would have prorated the payout. Howard refused. You can say you dont care what he payed out but I do because bottom line it went to us (the racers)

When the flood came track employees were up to there waste in sewage water moving trailers so that racer's equipment wouldnt get damaged. The same racers that use the place as a free storage facility for their equipment later tried to blame the track for damages. That has nothing to do with insurance that is commitment to helping racers out.
Then Ken Moses stepped up and went above and beyond by offering to fix racers transmissions for free. He didnt have to do that but he did it for the racers. Thats what this sport is about

Was this a perfect series? By no means. Then again what is perfect. Everyone compares this to epping. which has become in two years a really great series. They also had their share of issues getting off the ground. The difference is the racers in that series had the tact and class to handle things on a face to face basis not posting to the rest of the world.

Vince I agree 100% that the quick 32 next year is going to be a better deal. I think it will bring in more cars and I dont care what the bump is. But I agree it should be relatively quick
As to what the spectators think I really dont care. I dont race to put on a show. I am a bracket racer and I race because thats what I enjoy. It so happens that right now I have a fast enough bracket car to race top dragster so I will do that. If I wanted to put on a show for spectators I would have built a wheel stander. I want to race and go as fast as I can do so consitantly

If some have you have forgotten what this sport is about then you dont have to show up but dont ruin it for those of us who want to be there

Last thing I post cautiously is that Howard does not need this series or the drag strip to survive. Its the truth and we all know it He keeps this stuff going for us. Be careful what you post and maybe once in a while take the time to thank him for keeping drag racing going up there.

Sorry for the long post but as long as we're posting facts lets get it all out there.

B.J. Masiello

I dont have a dog in this fight but I am a spectator and I just wanna say I hope all of you continue to race at the valley because I enjoy watching you all run....Vince Musolino, Wayne Hoffman, Ken Moses, Frank and Laura Zefirro, Scott Hall, B.J. Masiello,Bill Krug, Brian Hansbury everyone that competed in the series and those that are considering....I am just a fan but I appreciate all that you guys do and hope the the quick 32 deal for next year is a big success. Also thanks to Howard for providing a place for spectators and racers to come to and the whole staff at LVD..

Thanks

Jeoffrey York

[Michael Galofaro]

Originally Posted by masracing

Some Facts and Some Observations that have failed to be mentioned

Approximately one year ago wayne came up with the idea to put together a top dragster series at Lebanon Valley He put together a Pilot race thanks to the help of Andy from Best Sanitation and Rick from A-1 Autobody. It was a hit. Prior to that the only time your read about LVD on the internet was someone bashing the place. he took the steps to do something positive for the track.

Over the winter through the hard work of Wayne and Scott
Best Sanitation
A-1 Autobody
Innovative Performance
Ken Moses Racing Transmissions
H&H Masonary
and Kinsella Carpentry
all stepped up and put there money up to make this deal work. They did not have to do that but they did it for us to have a place to race. No One has put a single thank you to any of them up here!

The track has stepped up and given us conditions capable of getting six second cars down the track routinely that is a big accomplishment.

At the beginning of the season the fields were a little short. Howard Commander reached into his own pocket to fill the payouts. He did not have to do this. I can tell you that any other track with the exception maybe of Atco would have prorated the payout. Howard refused. You can say you dont care what he payed out but I do because bottom line it went to us (the racers)

When the flood came track employees were up to there waste in sewage water moving trailers so that racer's equipment wouldnt get damaged. The same racers that use the place as a free storage facility for their equipment later tried to blame the track for damages. That has nothing to do with insurance that is commitment to helping racers out.
Then Ken Moses stepped up and went above and beyond by offering to fix racers transmissions for free. He didnt have to do that but he did it for the racers. Thats what this sport is about

Was this a perfect series? By no means. Then again what is perfect. Everyone compares this to epping. which has become in two years a really great series. They also had their share of issues getting off the ground. The difference is the racers in that series had the tact and class to handle things on a face to face basis not posting to the rest of the world.

Vince I agree 100% that the quick 32 next year is going to be a better deal. I think it will bring in more cars and I dont care what the bump is. But I agree it should be relatively quick
As to what the spectators think I really dont care. I dont race to put on a show. I am a bracket racer and I race because thats what I enjoy. It so happens that right now I have a fast enough bracket car to race top dragster so I will do that. If I wanted to put on a show for spectators I would have built a wheel stander. I want to race and go as fast as I can do so consitantly

If some have you have forgotten what this sport is about then you dont have to show up but dont ruin it for those of us who want to be there

Last thing I post cautiously is that Howard does not need this series or the drag strip to survive. Its the truth and we all know it He keeps this stuff going for us. Be careful what you post and maybe once in a while take the time to thank him for keeping drag racing going up there.

Sorry for the long post but as long as we're posting facts lets get it all out there.

B.J. Masiello

Why is it a big accomplishment for a 6 second car to get down a racetrack - not one track should be looked at as stepping up for that. Not only should a six second car be able to go down any track - a 5 second car should be able to go down if conditions are correct. To me this is a situation where the track is at a no win - if the track is great, well it should be - if it's crap then it sucks and most wont go there anymore.
Of course Howard should have reached in his pocket - he tried to make the series a success and I will give him credit for at least trying. But does he deserve any extra credit - absolutely not !! It is a business for him and really cost him a few bucks for the attempt.
As far as the flood it is the track employees who should have been there - they work there. As far as any equipment damage to persons property - that is 100% NOT howards problem. The insurance mention was because money was mentioned of what Howard went through and how much he did this year (unless I read it wrong). Again it is his business and improvements to the track are normal and expected.
Kenny did a great thing by offering his services - and if I recall I was the one who mentioned someone should have stepped up and had a fundraiser to help the people who got hurt in the flood - so I agree helping other races is a great part of this sport.
Nobody has forgotten what this sport is about - everyones criticism and compliments are designed to try and make improvements for all racers. To say the spectators is a non issue and we dont race to put on a show then that is thinking like a bracket racer who has no problem with the 10 bucks a car payout for the winner. Again refering to the guys down south - why is it they get in for FREE and race for 5,000. For some reason I doubt it is the good heart of the track owner reaching into his own pocket. The spectators pay the purse and the entry fees. So once again if you are trying to get a fast series (with fast cars) you need spectators.
As far as showing up I already had a few private messages about fast cars not running it no matter what happens. I was not able to support the series due to a very late start this year and if Wayne is involved next year I will support any series he runs. But I will state my opinions in what I think should be, and like the few people who have issues and will not run again, if I disagree with things I also will not run.
And to have the attitude that Howard does not need any of you is exactly the payout are what the are for normal racing up there. From what I am told the payout is 10 bucks a car to the winner - I DO NOT KNOW THIS 100% SO ANYONE CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG !!! So let's look at this - if the car count in super is 85 cars the payout for a WIN is 850 - sorry but that's a bit low if you ask me. Last time I checked that is 7 rounds - nobody has an issue with that ?? How about a 7th round loss for $400 ? Sixth round semi for 275 or so? Again a correction is welcomed if this is not true !!!

Like yourself sorry for the long post - just adding to the facts. Nobody is right or wrong in their opinions - they are exactly what they are and are designed to add insight.