Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's - Page 4

Myron Piatek · 10-02-2012, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Should hook in a car wash. Can't imagine how long the throttle stop would have to be on to slow a 800 HP 3200 lb car down to 10.00. Same weight as mine, runs about the same times with over 200 more HP.

Put an 8" ATI Treemaster converter in it and get back to us on that. LOL

The NHRA 10.0, 11.0 and 12.0 classes do not allow any "timed" throttle stops or other engine related settings. Only pre-set mechanical adjustments. Not sure if that includes trans shifters. Trans-brakes and 2-steps ok, but no delay boxes.

Rollins_2241 · 10-02-2012, 07:44 PM

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

Ed Wright · 10-02-2012, 07:45 PM

Good to know, Myron. I gotta wonder how it could be that slow if it really has 800 HP. Should be about a 9.0 car. Must be a really soft converter. Like I said, put a converter like we run in it and let us know how it hooks.

KRatcliff · 10-02-2012, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NewHemi

The right lane for Stock in Indianapolis was total crap. Big bald spots everywhere.

A lot of racers got eliminated because of a bad track, and nothing to do with cars or drivers as racing should be.

It is one thing to get beaten by a faster car, or a better rt, but when you pay money and all they give you to run is a crap lane, that just isn't racing.

I absolutely don't understand how that can go on at a National event. But it did!

David
The New Hemi Guy

I don't think they were using VHT or VP in the right lane. It seemed more like Mobil 1.

Ed Wright · 10-02-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KRatcliff

I don't think they were using VHT or VP in the right lane. It seemed more like Mobil 1.

Felt like it to mine also. I spun in both lanes before I loosened it up. First time I have had to go that direction after Dewayne & Vic Custer worked on it, other than to keep it off the bumper. A lot of disappointed racers up there. Only the index cars were hooking. We know why.

KRatcliff · 10-02-2012, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Felt like it to mine also. I spun in both lanes before I loosened it up. First time I have had to go that direction after Dewayne & Vic Custer worked on it, other than to keep it off the bumper. A lot of disappointed racers up there. Only the index cars were hooking. We know why.

My stocker is one of those that comes close to hooking up in a car wash. It just won't spin. It was a dead give away that the track was the problem rather than the set up on my car when it would hook to leave then go dead left or right. That is a track issue.

Ed Wright · 10-02-2012, 10:03 PM

I expected better of Indy.

Chad Rhodes · 10-03-2012, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rollins_2241

Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate.

This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires.

Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing.

Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track.

Just a guess but with a 1.80 low, and a 3.90 gear, you're not hitting the starting line near as hard as most stock and ss cars

Rollins_2241 · 10-03-2012, 08:22 AM

No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

Bill Grubbs · 10-03-2012, 09:05 AM

John,
To quote Painter and GEICO,"Come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "It's so easy even a caveman can do it"

Bill

10-02-2012, 07:44 PM	#32
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Yes, important point - the 10.0 class is an "all out" launch with no timers, just like a Super Stocker (transbrake, high RPM, no throttle stop). You could say I run this class so I can fantasize about having a Super Stock budget for 10 seconds at a time, that would be pretty accurate. This car runs 9.70 all out, so about like a SS/GA setup except for the skinny tires. Thanks for the opportunity to plug FTI, who makes my ridiculously consistent converter, on the stop or off. It stalls to 6200, shifts at 7600, falls back to about 6400. It is a Glide but a 1.80 straight cut. Also I keep the gear ratio down to 3.90. I guess that's all those years of bracket racing on crappy tracks showing. Yes, the throttle stop setup is rarely subject to tire spin and not relevant to the discussion; it comes off about 100' in low gear with no problem at any track. Last edited by Rollins_2241; 10-02-2012 at 07:47 PM. Reason: More detail

10-02-2012, 07:45 PM	#33
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's Good to know, Myron. I gotta wonder how it could be that slow if it really has 800 HP. Should be about a 9.0 car. Must be a really soft converter. Like I said, put a converter like we run in it and let us know how it hooks. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA Last edited by Ed Wright; 10-02-2012 at 07:49 PM.

10-02-2012, 10:03 PM	#37
Ed Wright Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Sand Springs, OK Posts: 8,132 Likes: 896 Liked 390 Times in 170 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's I expected better of Indy. __________________ Ed Wright 4156 SS/JA

10-03-2012, 08:22 AM	#39
Rollins_2241 Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 170 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's No offense guys, but I could sit here and take apart all your setups too. You're missing the point - if you want to win, you have to build a car that will go down the track. Think military - adapt and overcome. Spend your time and money wisely instead of sitting here. This is the drag racing economy and weather conditions we have to live in - no facility wants to spend more than they have to on the track, and nobody wants to rain out races and force people to waste another $1,000 in diesel coming back later.

10-03-2012, 09:05 AM	#40
Bill Grubbs Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Magnolia, Texas Posts: 416 Likes: 3 Liked 564 Times in 66 Posts	Re: Bruton Smith's - Bristol Track Condition's John, To quote Painter and GEICO,"Come on in the water is plenty deep!" - "It's so easy even a caveman can do it" Bill