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Old 03-07-2017, 08:29 AM   #31
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I wish they would give Ray Whitney some HP help
1962 Chevy wagon 409/425 4 speed, struggles to run the index in G/S
Everybody loves the car, and what would it hurt?
This is a perfect example of the purpose that this letter will (hopefully) serve! There are hundreds of combos in the guide that haven't been competitive in years or have never been. Why should NHRA overlook these combos?
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Old 03-07-2017, 09:48 AM   #32
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Why should NHRA overlook these combos?
I don't know a fraction of what a lot of guys on here know, but is there a person directly responsible for the class?
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Old 03-07-2017, 10:53 AM   #33
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This is a perfect example of the purpose that this letter will (hopefully) serve! There are hundreds of combos in the guide that haven't been competitive in years or have never been. Why should NHRA overlook these combos?
In 1962 mfgrs were inflating hp numbers to sell cars. No way that engine ever made near the power later 425hp engines make.
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:00 AM   #34
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In 1962 mfgrs were inflating hp numbers to sell cars. No way that engine ever made near the power later 425hp engines make.
Seven Liters (427 cubic inches) and 425 hp was the pinnacle for advertising for several years in the 1960s. Comparing a '63 409-425hp, a '63 Ford 427-425hp, a Pontiac 421-420hp, or a '62 MoPar 413-420hp in their original form to the later Hemis, High Rise Fords, or Chev L72/L88/ZL1, you know that something is just not right with the ratings.
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Seven Liters (427 cubic inches) and 425 hp was the pinnacle for advertising for several years in the 1960s. Comparing a '63 409-425hp, a '63 Ford 427-425hp, a Pontiac 421-420hp, or a '62 MoPar 413-420hp in their original form to the later Hemis, High Rise Fords, or Chev L72/L88/ZL1, you know that something is just not right with the ratings.
The 62 409 was actually 409 hp rated.
The 63 was 425, with not much difference in specs, if any.
There's a perfect example for Dwight's previous post .
The 62 has been reduced through the current system, but nowhere near enough.
The single 4 , 380 /365 hp needs about 65 more off it ,with that small carburetor.
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:08 PM   #36
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Not real computer savy that is why I never log on. I to have raced stock for over 40 years on a very limited budget. Haven't race since 2007 when my son passed. Why not do away with the heads up race except for when the exact same combo is pair. You may get a few more racers that way. I know there are a lot of fast D E F & G combos that I certainly can't compete against. Not wanting to start an argument just want to help e little guys.
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Old 03-07-2017, 01:19 PM   #37
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Not real computer savy that is why I never log on. I to have raced stock for over 40 years on a very limited budget. Haven't race since 2007 when my son passed. Why not do away with the heads up race except for when the exact same combo is pair. You may get a few more racers that way. I know there are a lot of fast D E F & G combos that I certainly can't compete against. Not wanting to start an argument just want to help e little guys.
As it stands right now the only heads up races during eliminations are when 2 identical letter combos are paired.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:06 PM   #38
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A few years ago I really tried to get 10% off of I think 1995 or so back, and 5 % off the inbetween motors LT1, LS1 and a couple more, and nothing for 2008 or newer. After getting severely scolded by old car guys for various reasons (my favorite "We will got fast and then get hit with HP") I cancelled that project, and had a couple of beverages. I thought I was trying to help. Many disagreed.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:10 PM   #39
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Jeff, we all know you are a hero.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:51 PM   #40
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The NHRA Technical Department recently made changes to the Class Guide.

1977 Buick Regal 350 170/287 change to 350 170/270

1977 Chev Chevelle 350 170/287 change to 350 170/270 auto

1977 Chev Chevelle 350 170 270 change to 350 170/275 man

1970 Dodge Challenger 440 390/400 change to 440 390/382

1964 Mopar 330, Savoy 426 425/415 change to 426 425/405

looks like letter is working for some
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