combo killers - Page 4

Race Clean · 03-01-2024, 03:47 PM

This class and type of racing has sure changed alot in the 40+ years I have tried to be competitive.
It make no sence to me as a guy that spent 2-3 years trying to make the index in the beginning that now 95% of the racers(that probably been doing this as long or longer) are talking about saving thier combo's rather than talking about a better way to show what they got!

The whole appeal in all this ais just going the wrong way

Doug Hoven · 03-01-2024, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone

Young man that’s not it
Go to a reputable engine shop and get the best stuff
Hard work and $
American It’s your $ choose where and how to spend it
And you have a fast car.
Also crying about the problem ain’t solving it
What done is done so you gotta adjust to fix it or buy more lead
Sort of like comp ��

At least for slow guys like me most of the rounds of racing we have are not heads up anyway. And money can’t buy good driving.

Billy Nees · 03-02-2024, 08:20 AM

Hoo Boy!

1347 · 03-02-2024, 09:54 AM

There are no awards given to the " most stock" engine in class racing. The rules are what they are and you work within what passes tech. They are never going back to the valve spring rule, or any other rules that people feel have gone too far. If you don't take advantage of where we have gone and what's allowed, its a personal decision. Bitching about it on here will not change it. Either work harder on your stuff, or work harder to make more money to pay someone to make your stuff faster. Money has brought this about, and it's like that in every sport. It's been going on in Nascar since the fist car went around the track, and it has been going on in NHRA just as long. "Being competetive" was a term labeled in Nascar for people like Junior Johnson, Smokey Yunick, and many others. It applies to every sport, not just racing.
The AHFS even though some don't like it, gives you a clear cut path to get hp. I wasn't around, but hear stories of cars randomly getting hp by tech inspectors with no real explanation. Alot of people have said there sometimes was no rhyme or reason to it. Nowadays, there are combos that are at an advantage that there are enough cars to keep the average down to counter some fast cars who don't care to play the game. Others are less fortunate, but that's the way it is.

I understand its frustrating to get hp after you have worked hard with what money you have to only be set back again, or to be at a disadvantage when you show up at a race with the slowest car in your class hoping for a miracle on a heads up run, but for alot of class racers, it's what we enjoy wether we have the fastest car or not. I don't have the fastest combo in my class, but was able to pull a class win at Indy on the other cars misfortune, will I be the fastest car this year, maybe not, but I'm still going to Indy to try again this year. I would still rather go to Indy and lose class than race a weekly 1/8 mile program at my local drag strip. And I am not putting local racers down. I did it most of my life, and still have many friends that still do it.

Rick J · 03-02-2024, 06:54 PM

So a guy decides he wants to go fast and play the game his way, so he writes Tilburg a check to help him do so.
Still not sure why this is still being discussed?

3 things that can be done,

1. Write Tilburg a check
2. Avoid races said fast guy enters
3. Add/Pull weight to change your class

Billy Nees · 03-03-2024, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick J

So a guy decides he wants to go fast and play the game his way, so he writes Tilburg a check to help him do so.
Still not sure why this is still being discussed?

3 things that can be done,

1. Write Tilburg a check
2. Avoid races said fast guy enters
3. Add/Pull weight to change your class

4. Build a combo which fits into a class that doesn't have dozens of cars in it and own it

PONTIAC'S REVENGE · 03-07-2024, 12:41 PM

I guess there ain't no bragging about sandbagging!! The older you are the less you care. Smokem while you gottem! 😉

"I Run it like I stole it" (Gary Ewing) 🤣

James Perrone · 03-07-2024, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick J

So a guy decides he wants to go fast and play the game his way, so he writes Tilburg a check to help him do so.
Still not sure why this is still being discussed?

3 things that can be done,

1. Write Tilburg a check
2. Avoid races said fast guy enters
3. Add/Pull weight to change your class

To fix the problem you have to run E/SA.according to TerryHebree
Who is the only guy racing E /SA.
Terry’s runs against Ralph the average is about 86 under

Sooo to all effected MUST USE YOUR BRAIN

And stop bitching and run. E/SA
Complaining will get you HP
Racing FSA. DSA does nothing to help
So smarten up people

J.LISA · 03-08-2024, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Perrone

To fix the problem you have to run E/SA.according to TerryHebree
Who is the only guy racing E /SA.
Terry’s runs against Ralph the average is about 86 under

Sooo to all effected MUST USE YOUR BRAIN

And stop bitching and run. E/SA
Complaining will get you HP
Racing FSA. DSA does nothing to help
So smarten up people

Really smarten up and use your brain
1.05 under on a BYE run does the dude no
were the 1000ft is
.or just hold his foot to the rad support until he
gets to the time slip shack!! WTF

MW7670 · 03-09-2024, 02:05 AM

WTF is correct!! 3 weeks in a row!! The guy has had 2 singles via red light or a single 1st rnd this weekend and can’t kill it at the 1,000 or damn somewhere before the finish line ?? The guy is killing the combo for everyone running a 67-69!! C/SA-F/SA!! At least use it in a Heads-Up not a damn bye run!!!

03-01-2024, 03:47 PM	#31
Race Clean Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 155 Likes: 18 Liked 129 Times in 51 Posts	Re: combo killers This class and type of racing has sure changed alot in the 40+ years I have tried to be competitive. It make no sence to me as a guy that spent 2-3 years trying to make the index in the beginning that now 95% of the racers(that probably been doing this as long or longer) are talking about saving thier combo's rather than talking about a better way to show what they got! The whole appeal in all this ais just going the wrong way __________________ Stop global whining

03-02-2024, 08:20 AM	#33
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,269 Likes: 3,152 Liked 6,923 Times in 1,560 Posts	Re: combo killers Hoo Boy! __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS Reality, what a concept!

03-02-2024, 09:54 AM	#34
1347 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Monroe Twp NJ Posts: 454 Likes: 929 Liked 928 Times in 241 Posts	Re: combo killers There are no awards given to the " most stock" engine in class racing. The rules are what they are and you work within what passes tech. They are never going back to the valve spring rule, or any other rules that people feel have gone too far. If you don't take advantage of where we have gone and what's allowed, its a personal decision. Bitching about it on here will not change it. Either work harder on your stuff, or work harder to make more money to pay someone to make your stuff faster. Money has brought this about, and it's like that in every sport. It's been going on in Nascar since the fist car went around the track, and it has been going on in NHRA just as long. "Being competetive" was a term labeled in Nascar for people like Junior Johnson, Smokey Yunick, and many others. It applies to every sport, not just racing. The AHFS even though some don't like it, gives you a clear cut path to get hp. I wasn't around, but hear stories of cars randomly getting hp by tech inspectors with no real explanation. Alot of people have said there sometimes was no rhyme or reason to it. Nowadays, there are combos that are at an advantage that there are enough cars to keep the average down to counter some fast cars who don't care to play the game. Others are less fortunate, but that's the way it is. I understand its frustrating to get hp after you have worked hard with what money you have to only be set back again, or to be at a disadvantage when you show up at a race with the slowest car in your class hoping for a miracle on a heads up run, but for alot of class racers, it's what we enjoy wether we have the fastest car or not. I don't have the fastest combo in my class, but was able to pull a class win at Indy on the other cars misfortune, will I be the fastest car this year, maybe not, but I'm still going to Indy to try again this year. I would still rather go to Indy and lose class than race a weekly 1/8 mile program at my local drag strip. And I am not putting local racers down. I did it most of my life, and still have many friends that still do it. __________________ Duane Hoven 1342 SS/GT

03-02-2024, 06:54 PM	#35
Rick J Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2022 Posts: 69 Likes: 19 Liked 55 Times in 24 Posts	Re: combo killers So a guy decides he wants to go fast and play the game his way, so he writes Tilburg a check to help him do so. Still not sure why this is still being discussed? 3 things that can be done, 1. Write Tilburg a check 2. Avoid races said fast guy enters 3. Add/Pull weight to change your class

03-07-2024, 12:41 PM	#37
PONTIAC'S REVENGE Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: CARMEL, INDIANA Posts: 140 Likes: 69 Liked 49 Times in 19 Posts	Re: combo killers I guess there ain't no bragging about sandbagging!! The older you are the less you care. Smokem while you gottem! 😉 "I Run it like I stole it" (Gary Ewing) 🤣

03-09-2024, 02:05 AM	#40
MW7670 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 12 Likes: 1 Liked 5 Times in 3 Posts	Re: combo killers WTF is correct!! 3 weeks in a row!! The guy has had 2 singles via red light or a single 1st rnd this weekend and can’t kill it at the 1,000 or damn somewhere before the finish line ?? The guy is killing the combo for everyone running a 67-69!! C/SA-F/SA!! At least use it in a Heads-Up not a damn bye run!!!