worst red light debate, again!

[Jim Wahl]

I don't know Ed. I might. Or I could let Bill write it up and I could submit it. Or I could work with him and several others and send in a proposal. Who knows. Jim

[bill dedman]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

So Jim,you going to email or call Glendora and pitch old Bill's proposal?Mark declined,
he says he's not a currant NHRA member.I assume you are.

ED,

I thougtht you were outta here. No such luck, huh"

Did you READ THIS????

"More likely, it will put a fork in the whole idea,because, NHRA is now run by bean counters who only understand ONE THING: The bottom line."

Having to come up with a million dollars a year JUST to feed the two top druids (Uncle Tom and his accomplice) in the face of declining revenues that are the result of the general economy, declining car counts, poor attendance, LOTS of anti-NHRA sentiment, and gas and Diesel fuel prices, they (NHRA) are likely not in the mood to enact a rule that is NOT going to earn them a red cent, EVER, while costing them whatever it takes to get the proper software installed and working on all those NHRA computers. Add to all that, the likelihood that the poor bastard that would have to make a decision on this rule, would undoubtedly have the classic "deer in the headlights" eyes, after trying to figure it all out...

No, to hit NHRA with a petition on this idea at this time, would be suicidal.

Even if they supported the idea 100-percent, they're VERY UNLIKELY to make such a change, given fiscal conditions and their foreseeable financial future.

Petition???

Not a good idea. A good way to BURY it, probably.

That doesn't mean we can't talk about it.... LOL!"

How is YOUR "reading comprehension???????????"

I assume you read the foregoing, Mr. Fernandez....

The danger is, once a petition has failed, it would take an act of congress ever to reverse that....

Ed knows this.

NOT a good time for a petition. Read that again. I just want to make sure you understand so when you push harder for one, it will be obvious what your motives are.

[Pvt Parts]

Originally Posted by Ed Fernandez

So Jim,you going to email or call Glendora and pitch old Bill's proposal?Mark declined,
he says he's not a currant NHRA member.I assume you are.

Looks to me like he got stuck in neutral or jumped into reverse.

[Jim B]

OK Bill I've gotta ask. I understand your position on the starting line redlight inequity but do you advocate fixing a potential breakout correction at the finish line? Example: Car A fouls by .002 and car B fouls by .005. Under your revision is car A now the final and undisputed winner? (barring crossing the centerline) At the other end car A runs out by .005 (gets there first) and car B runs out by .001 Since the total combined infractions (.007 vs .006) would give the win back to car B... is that what you advocate? How would you treat a single breakout run that possibly was a result of chasing a worse redlight? (Car A runs out by .002 and Car B runs dead on (doesn't break out) but has a worse (.005 to .004) total infraction.

[bigshow2966]

Why don't we just go back to the way it used to be in the '70's at US 30. Both cars redlight or break-out, they both lose. Double red in the final, both get 2nd place money. Saves money in the long run.

Oh yeah, we can also go back to paying only 4 places. Round money is for sissies.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Jim B

OK Bill I've gotta ask. I understand your position on the starting line redlight inequity but do you advocate fixing a potential breakout correction at the finish line? Example: Car A fouls by .002 and car B fouls by .005. Under your revision is car A now the final and undisputed winner? (barring crossing the centerline) At the other end car A runs out by .005 (gets there first) and car B runs out by .001 Since the total combined infractions (.007 vs .006) would give the win back to car B... is that what you advocate? How would you treat a single breakout run that possibly was a result of chasing a worse redlight? (Car A runs out by .002 and Car B runs dead on (doesn't break out) but has a worse (.005 to .004) total infraction.

Bill's proposal has nothing to do with breakouts.
Both car leave the line...Worse red light comes . Win light comes on in other lane...Race over...Not that complicated.
Maybe it is?

[Ed Fernandez]

Originally Posted by bill dedman

ED,

I thougtht you were outta here. No such luck, huh"

Did you READ THIS????

"More likely, it will put a fork in the whole idea,because, NHRA is now run by bean counters who only understand ONE THING: The bottom line."

Having to come up with a million dollars a year JUST to feed the two top druids (Uncle Tom and his accomplice) in the face of declining revenues that are the result of the general economy, declining car counts, poor attendance, LOTS of anti-NHRA sentiment, and gas and Diesel fuel prices, they (NHRA) are likely not in the mood to enact a rule that is NOT going to earn them a red cent, EVER, while costing them whatever it takes to get the proper software installed and working on all those NHRA computers. Add to all that, the likelihood that the poor bastard that would have to make a decision on this rule, would undoubtedly have the classic "deer in the headlights" eyes, after trying to figure it all out...

No, to hit NHRA with a petition on this idea at this time, would be suicidal.

Even if they supported the idea 100-percent, they're VERY UNLIKELY to make such a change, given fiscal conditions and their foreseeable financial future.

Petition???

Not a good idea. A good way to BURY it, probably.

That doesn't mean we can't talk about it.... LOL!"

How is YOUR "reading comprehension???????????"

I assume you read the foregoing, Mr. Fernandez....

The danger is, once a petition has failed, it would take an act of congress ever to reverse that....

Ed knows this.

NOT a good time for a petition. Read that again. I just want to make sure you understand so when you push harder for one, it will be obvious what your motives are.

You didn't get the intent of that post.That stone was meant to have Bill Dedman on it.
FYI.I still think you're a nosey body inflaming this issue where there's no implications for you,period.

[Jim Wahl]

Originally Posted by Pvt Parts

Looks to me like he got stuck in neutral or jumped into reverse.

Nope Wilcox, you obviously don't know me. I'm just idling through the pits on my way up to the staging lanes.Jim

[SStockDart]

Wow....Still trying to give a guy that loses a way to win? He/she has the same opportunity. Cut the best light and run closest to the dial, wins 100% of the time.

[Jim Wahl]

WOW! you still posting the same thing? Glad to have your input, again, and again, and again! Real informative! Thanks.Jim