Original hemi dart information - Page 65

Paul Ceasrine · 02-24-2011, 10:02 AM

Bucky,,,,

That SS/BA Cuda,,,
Was it raced by Tom only in 1968.
Not too many photo's of that car.
The 1967 R/O car was a National Champion in 67',,,,,correct ?

mannymen · 02-24-2011, 12:07 PM

Maybe I missed this in the other 66 pages of info on this thread, but can someone answer a few questions regarding the 68 Dart Hemi's below.

1. What size rear wheel and tire combo was run on the 68 Darts. (What backspacing, rim siz, treadwidths, section widths etc...)

2. Were the shackles, perches and front lead spring mounts moved to accommodate the larger rear tires. If so where were they moved to.

3. Were the inner wheel wells also modified from the stock configuration to accommodate the larger rear tires and rims?

4. What size front tires and rims were used and with what backspacing back in the day?

5. Who (business) currently restores the Darts, that can help answer questions? I'm looking at buying and cloning a 68 Dart, but minus the Hemi engine of course. I just want the body to be cloned (rear quarters cut and stance/ride height)

Thanks
Manny

Paul Ceasrine · 02-24-2011, 02:29 PM

Rick,,

Dick Panter,,,,,1968 Hemi Dart SS/BA
was white with blue-center panel, gold lettering 'Dick Panter'
the roof and hood were cranberry color.
He was from Mannville, Alberta, Canada

Had Cragars,,,,,,Ran at Saskatoon NHRA # 6999

Dave Wren also ran up there with the orange Hemi Cuda.

Paul Ceasrine · 02-24-2011, 05:24 PM

mannymen

Front wheels,,,14" x 5.5", w/4.5" bolt pattern.
Tires, most cars were equipped with D-70 x 14"

Rear Wheels,,,15" x 8", w/4.5" bolt pattern
Special off-set
Tires, most cars were equipped with 7.75" x 15"

Though a handful escaped with 8.15" x 15" Blue Dot (same tires as the Ford Cobra)

Paul Ceasrine · 02-25-2011, 09:22 AM

Any information on a 1968 Hemi Dart,,,,,,,'Hemi-A-Go-Go'

Photos of the car match-racing versus Dick Landy in 1969.

Rory McNeil · 02-25-2011, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Rick,,

Dick Panter,,,,,1968 Hemi Dart SS/BA
was white with blue-center panel, gold lettering 'Dick Panter'
the roof and hood were cranberry color.
He was from Mannville, Alberta, Canada

Had Cragars,,,,,,Ran at Saskatoon NHRA # 6999

Dave Wren also ran up there with the orange Hemi Cuda.

Paul, when did Dick Panter run the white Dart? I always remember him driving one of the yellow & brown "Old Trapper" team cars from Alberta. The "Old Trapper" lettering on the doors was painted to look like wooden logs.

Paul Ceasrine · 02-25-2011, 01:26 PM

Rory,

Not sure,,,,,,,,,but his nephew has a bunch of photo's.
And it was classed in SS/BA, so it had to be before 1970.
Before the Street/Hemi Cuda 'Old Trapper'.

Diego,,

#BO29,,,299126 would be the #13 car, I'm pretty sure on that.
A 4-speed transmission.
Shipped to; Wilkes Motor Sales, Zainesville, Ohio.

#BO29,,,299127 would be the #14 car.
An automatic transmission.
Shipped to; Myl's Chrysler-Plymouth, Coroapolis, Pennsylvania

#BO29,,,299128 would be the #15 car.
A 4-speed transmission.
Shipped to; Harold Dutton,,,,, Morrow, Georgia

If the #'s are correct, and the first run build date (February 18, 1968), and 50 were built.
Than the #'s should run from #BO29,,,299114,,,, thru,,,,,#BO29,,,299163.
This obviously from the first run production.

Paul Ceasrine · 02-25-2011, 03:39 PM

Diego,,

A guy by the name of Bill VanWey, out of Dayton, Ohio bought a Cuda.

He picked it up at;
Hurst Performance Research Center
1911 East Eleven Mile Road
Madison Heights, Michigan
#BO29M8B390659.

Off the second run production 5/18/68,
He only had it a short time.
He sold it to Billy Stepp. It was a 4-speed.
Billy Stepp also had his own original, and he ran it with Dick Humbert.

The other car you are asking about was out of the Mountain West.
It went to Idaho.
#BO29M8B390676
An automatic transmission.
Shipped to; Ron McDowell and Jerry Taylor
Lettered,,, 'Gentle Ben'

mannymen · 02-25-2011, 05:24 PM

In the original hemi darts did they have offset shackles or ones that were inline with the with the rear framerails? Apparently there were not allowed to even mini tub the cars in superstock. If that is the case, what size wheels & tires (30x10?) did they run back in those days? What sizse torsion bars did the Dart and Barracuda Hemis run then and what do they run now?

Paul Ceasrine · 02-25-2011, 07:10 PM

Many guys swapped off the front 14" rims, and went with 15" x 3" Cragars or Keystones,
with Good Year 6.70" x 15" skinnies.

Slicks 10.5" wide, on mag wheels 15 ' x 8" with no off-set.

The component list, you can get from the 1968 Authenticity Book.

There is some debate on the torsion bar sizes, but all 1968 Hemi A-Body cars were
utilizing 383 cars with torque boxes, and .890 sized torsion bars.

02-24-2011, 10:02 AM	#641
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Bucky,,,, That SS/BA Cuda,,, Was it raced by Tom only in 1968. Not too many photo's of that car. The 1967 R/O car was a National Champion in 67',,,,,correct ?

02-24-2011, 12:07 PM	#642
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Maybe I missed this in the other 66 pages of info on this thread, but can someone answer a few questions regarding the 68 Dart Hemi's below. 1. What size rear wheel and tire combo was run on the 68 Darts. (What backspacing, rim siz, treadwidths, section widths etc...) 2. Were the shackles, perches and front lead spring mounts moved to accommodate the larger rear tires. If so where were they moved to. 3. Were the inner wheel wells also modified from the stock configuration to accommodate the larger rear tires and rims? 4. What size front tires and rims were used and with what backspacing back in the day? 5. Who (business) currently restores the Darts, that can help answer questions? I'm looking at buying and cloning a 68 Dart, but minus the Hemi engine of course. I just want the body to be cloned (rear quarters cut and stance/ride height) Thanks Manny __________________ N/A Last edited by mannymen; 02-24-2011 at 12:09 PM.

02-24-2011, 02:29 PM	#643
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Rick,, Dick Panter,,,,,1968 Hemi Dart SS/BA was white with blue-center panel, gold lettering 'Dick Panter' the roof and hood were cranberry color. He was from Mannville, Alberta, Canada Had Cragars,,,,,,Ran at Saskatoon NHRA # 6999 Dave Wren also ran up there with the orange Hemi Cuda. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 02-24-2011 at 02:36 PM.

02-24-2011, 05:24 PM	#644
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information mannymen Front wheels,,,14" x 5.5", w/4.5" bolt pattern. Tires, most cars were equipped with D-70 x 14" Rear Wheels,,,15" x 8", w/4.5" bolt pattern Special off-set Tires, most cars were equipped with 7.75" x 15" Though a handful escaped with 8.15" x 15" Blue Dot (same tires as the Ford Cobra) Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 02-24-2011 at 06:30 PM.

02-25-2011, 09:22 AM	#645
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Any information on a 1968 Hemi Dart,,,,,,,'Hemi-A-Go-Go' Photos of the car match-racing versus Dick Landy in 1969.

02-25-2011, 01:26 PM	#647
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Rory, Not sure,,,,,,,,,but his nephew has a bunch of photo's. And it was classed in SS/BA, so it had to be before 1970. Before the Street/Hemi Cuda 'Old Trapper'. Diego,, #BO29,,,299126 would be the #13 car, I'm pretty sure on that. A 4-speed transmission. Shipped to; Wilkes Motor Sales, Zainesville, Ohio. #BO29,,,299127 would be the #14 car. An automatic transmission. Shipped to; Myl's Chrysler-Plymouth, Coroapolis, Pennsylvania #BO29,,,299128 would be the #15 car. A 4-speed transmission. Shipped to; Harold Dutton,,,,, Morrow, Georgia If the #'s are correct, and the first run build date (February 18, 1968), and 50 were built. Than the #'s should run from #BO29,,,299114,,,, thru,,,,,#BO29,,,299163. This obviously from the first run production. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 02-25-2011 at 03:01 PM.

02-25-2011, 03:39 PM	#648
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Diego,, A guy by the name of Bill VanWey, out of Dayton, Ohio bought a Cuda. He picked it up at; Hurst Performance Research Center 1911 East Eleven Mile Road Madison Heights, Michigan #BO29M8B390659. Off the second run production 5/18/68, He only had it a short time. He sold it to Billy Stepp. It was a 4-speed. Billy Stepp also had his own original, and he ran it with Dick Humbert. The other car you are asking about was out of the Mountain West. It went to Idaho. #BO29M8B390676 An automatic transmission. Shipped to; Ron McDowell and Jerry Taylor Lettered,,, 'Gentle Ben' Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 02-25-2011 at 04:52 PM.

02-25-2011, 05:24 PM	#649
mannymen Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 728 Likes: 5 Liked 13 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information In the original hemi darts did they have offset shackles or ones that were inline with the with the rear framerails? Apparently there were not allowed to even mini tub the cars in superstock. If that is the case, what size wheels & tires (30x10?) did they run back in those days? What sizse torsion bars did the Dart and Barracuda Hemis run then and what do they run now? __________________ N/A

02-25-2011, 07:10 PM	#650
Paul Ceasrine VIP Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,546 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Original hemi dart information Many guys swapped off the front 14" rims, and went with 15" x 3" Cragars or Keystones, with Good Year 6.70" x 15" skinnies. Slicks 10.5" wide, on mag wheels 15 ' x 8" with no off-set. The component list, you can get from the 1968 Authenticity Book. There is some debate on the torsion bar sizes, but all 1968 Hemi A-Body cars were utilizing 383 cars with torque boxes, and .890 sized torsion bars. Last edited by Paul Ceasrine; 02-25-2011 at 07:25 PM.