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Old 05-26-2012, 12:05 PM   #61
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A few more Sox & Martin team cars...



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Old 06-16-2012, 03:17 PM   #62
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I seen this on Jayski. com this morning

Sad News - Randy Stewart: Randal Lee "Randy" Stewart, 61, passed away Thursday, June 14, 2012 at his residence. Randy was born March 17, 1951 in Cabarrus County [NC] to the late Myrl Stewart and Fannie M. Stewart who survives. He worked in the early years for Eugene Coard, Ronald Liles, and Sox and Martin. Later years he worked for Hendrick Motorsports.

I did not know him but RIP
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Old 07-14-2012, 12:00 AM   #63
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Never heard of Randy but sorry to hear the sad news nevertheless.

Here's a photo of Ronnie Sox at Detroit Dragway in the late-1960s. Btw, it looks to me like there's a bit too much positive camber.



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Old 07-14-2012, 11:54 AM   #64
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This was an S&M Cuda. Stewart Pomeroy owned a couple of S&M cars, a RR, the Cuda and the Colt. He also owned the Missile after Carlton was done with it. He owned better cars than I dream about owning.
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Old 07-15-2012, 09:34 PM   #65
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mopar 68 re too much positive camber. S&M were probably just trying to get the car to go straight down the track. When you've raced one of these cars you learn quickly the frt end doesn't settle down for a long time under power and that the frt end goes into a negative camber, toe out , guard rail kissin stance. I'm thinkin they tried lots of + camber to try and fix this.
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Old 07-17-2012, 09:14 PM   #66
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Jack Arnew, do you wish to comment?



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mopar 68 re too much positive camber. S&M were probably just trying to get the car to go straight down the track. When you've raced one of these cars you learn quickly the frt end doesn't settle down for a long time under power and that the frt end goes into a negative camber, toe out , guard rail kissin stance. I'm thinkin they tried lots of + camber to try and fix this.
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Old 07-18-2012, 08:39 PM   #67
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Jack Arnew, do you wish to comment?
When running larger front tires for more roll out in lights it required lowering torq. bars to reduce ride height. Because upper control arms are shorter than lower arms and swing on a shorter arc you get negitive camber at static height.If camber is adjusted to zero degreas the camber must go positive when the car leaves. The trick is to control camber as much as possible along with a good amount of caster and get (NO) toe change thru the entire front end travel.
In that shot it looks like the right front wheel has gained some toe out. It may be just the position of camera though.
The Cuda that Pannuty purchased from S/M had no work done in the front end department, and Ronnie was match racing it the night we took delivery.
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:02 AM   #68
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Old 08-12-2012, 12:11 PM   #69
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Notice the difference in the 2 Sox and Martin cudas at the beginning of this thread. Both pictures taken in 1970 at the Winter nationals and the race the week before at Orange County International Raceway. One a SS/B and the other Pro Stock driven by Don Carlton. Check the decals on the front fenders placement / different on both cars. The Pro car was the same cuda ran at the US Nationals in September 1969 in B gas to show case the new class.
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Old 08-19-2012, 05:50 PM   #70
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