Rambler All-American

[67RogueX-code]

...come on Keith, I know you were working back then (too!)... heck, if you made $400/month, you were doing GREAT!

[amc67rogue]

Sorry Bob : I was still in high school . I was only making $1.25 gassing tele. ph. Co. cars . I bought the Rogue in the fall of 70 @ $ 1.80 hr. I was refering to the upper end. I got the Rogue for $1200.00 the 440 for $600.00 . I wasn't aware of the real world yet .

[Paul Ceasrine]

A small section of the 1969 newspaper article,,,,,

April 17, 1969, The Evening Star

'Frost Action'

The name indicates an ice cold action, but this car is anything but cold.
What is it, but a hot drag racing car, owned by Putnam Valley resident
Scott Smith.

Not the car you would think, but a 1967 Rambler American. Yes, a
Rambler Drag Race Car. With all the hot cars rumbling the streets of
Northern Westchester, one not to tangle with is this white compact
box-styled car, which looks like your fathers company car.

Scott, who works as a Parts Manager for Geis Motors in Shrub Oak,
uses his car for a dual-purpose, Monday thru Friday to get to work, and
Sundays to legally drag race. Scott has been drag racing for 3 years,
and first started off with 1965 289 cubic inch Ford Mustang. But once he
started working for Geis Motors, owner William Geis Sr. suggested that
he really should own an American Motors product, since he was the Parts
Manager at Geis Motors here in Shrub Oak.

Scott was willing to sell his 'Pride and Joy' Mustang 4-speed, as long as
he could get a good deal on Ramblers top performance car. Mr. Geis
offered Scott a car at dealer cost, since he was a selected employee
as Parts Manager. What Scott found, was not your typical medium-bodied
big engine car, but a special limited production 1967 Rambler American
compact with a high-performance 343 engine..

Scott ordered the car with a 4-speed, and in a basic white color.
Scott stated, that when he got the car; 'it looked like some insurance
guys company car, really boring looking, but the fact is, this is a little car
with a big engine, and nobody knows it'.

[Paul Ceasrine]

HM,

The AMC Dealership list,,,,,,,does not list all those early Rambler dealerships (pre-1969)

New York (Southern Region)
Geis Motors (Shrub Oak)
Mitchell Motors (Pleasantville)
K & K Motors (New York City)
Westbury Rambler (Westbury, Long Island)
Hicksville Rambler (Hicksville, Long Island)
Lazar's Auto Sales (Peekskill, New York)
Fred Fink Motors (Mahopac, New York)
Kelly's Motors (Vails Gate)

Just to name a few Southern New York Rambler Dealerships (pre-1970)

Connecticut
Stahl's Rambler (Derby)
Stratford Rambler (Stratford)

[Hemi Moose]

does the name Wentworth ring a bell?

Wasn't that a dealership called Wentworth selling cars from the north east some where, I remember seeing an old ad or maybe it was on that dealership list.

The AMC Dealership list,,,,,,,does not list all those early Rambler dealerships (pre-1969)

Yeah but it was still kind of neat to read though some of those old dealerships from back then...interesting.

[Jeff Lee]

I went to Maryvale H.S in Phoenix, class of '78. A fellow classmate, a few years older than I, has a gold '67 343 (I think it's a Rogue but I could be wrong). He's had it since at least the mid 1970's. I went to an all year class reunion a few years ago and he was there. Still has the car and will apparently die with it. Sorry, don't remember his name.

I once had a Big Bad Orange '69 AMX. it was an original 390, T-10 4-speed (2.20 low) & 3.54 gears. Somebody placed a stock 343 in it. All stock with log exhaust manifolds and all. It was a no option car with manual steering. I took it to the track and was very impressed. Didn't hook well on the Radial T/A's but ran 96 MPH and 15.20's. I was very impressed with the MPH.

I also had a '68 AMX with the 290 / 220 HP 4bbl, 2.64 low T-10 & 3.54's. It was bone stock with 106K miles on it and I don't think it ever had a valve cover off. While I never took it to the track, I can say it was an impressive engine and had all the right trans and rear gearing. Not too many "little" small block cars would get rubber in 3rd! I've driven 289/225 cars, 273/235 & 283/220 cars. In bone stock as delivered condition I wouldn't give the mopar or ford a chance. The 283 would be a good race.

And while I've never owned a SC/Rambler (390 / 315), I went for a ride in a restored one with 4.10 gears in it. Holly molly, that car was fast!

[Paul Ceasrine]

1969 Photo

Rambler by Stahls',,,,,,,E/Stock

No not Jere Stahl,,,,,,,,but Stahl's Rambler, Derby, Connecticut

[Paul Ceasrine]

Not to discount the 290/225 4-Barrel 'N' Code

In 1968,
the 67' Rambler American 290/225 4-Barrel car was classed in
J/S or J/SA (12.50- 12.99 Wt/Hp).

440 2-Door Sedan (#2817 lbs. ~ 225 HP = 12.52 Wt/Hp)

That was one-hell-of-a-competetive-class...........

1968 National Records;
J/S,,,,,,,,,,,,13.14 @ 105.50 MPH
J/SA,,,,,,,,,13.62 @ 102.43 MPH

[Tom keedle]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Not to discount the 290/225 4-Barrel,,,,,,,,

In 1968,
the 67' Rambler American 290/225 4-Barrel car was classed in
J/S or J/SA (12.50- 12.99 Wt/Hp).

That was one-hell-of-a-competetive-class...........

1968 National Records;
J/S,,,,,,,,,,,,13.14 @ 105.50 MPH
J/SA,,,,,,,,,13.62 @ 102.43 MPH

today it's at L or M....just enough that i gotta put a roll bar in....

[Hemi Moose]

Originally Posted by Paul Ceasrine

Rockford Rambler
Rockford, Illinois

1967 Rambler American Model 440, 2-Door Sedan

'America's Lowest Priced Compact Car'
And running 13.40's in 1967 too.

So was this the 'first' '67 American race car/team or was it someone else instead...trying to figure out who were some of the early race car teams with the 343 Typhoon motor, any help from the Rambler/AMC experts out there is appreciated.