The Demise Of Class Eliminations

[DG]

Originally Posted by JP1738

Well I certainly appreciate that. I'm willing to work on my car, but frankly I lack the years of expertise the vast majority of guys in this sport have. I'd be terrified if they pointed at me and asked for a intake valve, I hope they never do! That's why I say I'll let them have a look, but going back together is gonna be... a process.

Theres no shame in your approach. If I get targeted for tear down, I certainly hope my engine builder is around to help put things back together correctly. Many racers pay for more experienced mechanics to assist them at Indy. If you have a common engine, and a few racers friends, I am sure you will get offers of assistance.

[DG]

Originally Posted by pmrphil

Round track racers around the northeast are required to have a screw in plug in the side of the pan so the officials can look at the crank, rod, and piston. Quick way to verify if the correct parts are in there. Just food for thought.

I would much prefer them to put a camera through a cap in the oil pan to look around to verify no illegal grinding/holes in the crank, no aluminum rods and no lightened pistons. If things look questionable they can always have you pull a rod for verification. Its not perfect, but a simple approach to deter the most aggregious cheating. Some cars have incredible 60' times for their class that should raise the suspicions of NHRA tech, this is a tool to address potential problems.

[Bobby Fazio]

Give em what they want...

https://youtube.com/shorts/wwEX40PSr...DPjIWcqA_MK-Gt

[1320racer]

Originally Posted by NHRA1926

WHY did NHRA pick these people for division directors that have no knowledge or experience in these important areas? This make absolutely no sense.

because they pay division directors under $100k and nobody that knows, will take this job for that money, not to mention the travel and having to deal with 100s of crybabies that will bitch about every decision you make that they don't agree with at everyone of the divisional you are responsible for.

GENERAL:
The Division Director is responsible for managing all operational aspects of regional and divisional sportsman racing events. This includes working closely with our member tracks and racers to develop marketing programs that enhance the racing experience, coordination with track operators and staff, handling media for the events, negotiation of event/sponsor contracts, staff supervision, implementation of racing safety and technical standards, and office management. The Division office is located in the Dallas, TX area, and requires travel throughout NHRA's south-central division.

PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITIES:
Manage division Member Track network.
Explore opportunities to increase the Member Track network.
Support all national events within the division.
Manage all divisional events.
Assist member tracks with marketing activities.
Promote divisional programs.
Public/Media Relations.
Training (tech, emergency, certification crew, etc..).
Maintain and manage a network of chassis inspectors.
Develop new programs to grow activity within the division.
Secure sponsorship for various programs offered within the division and service clients.
Agreements, expense reports, invoices, etc.
Setup and run division track operator meetings and banquet.
Budget monitoring.
Maintain all divisional equipment.
Support various Rule Committees and Advisory Councils.

MINIMUM SKILLS/EXPERIENCE/EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS:
BA or BS preferably in sports marketing, sports administration or facility management is required.
A minimum of 5 years related experience with an emphasis on event marketing.
Minimum of 5 years of supervisory experience.
Must be proficient in MS Office Suite.
Experience with budgets, P&L, sales forecasting, event management, and accounting basics required.
Must be detail oriented, organized, and able to work independently and efficiently to meet deadlines.
Excellent ability to communicate effectively with clients and all levels of management both in writing and verbally.
A background in sports or motorsports racing is a plus.

PHYSICAL REQUIREMENTS:
Able to work at a computer all day.
Ability to talk on the phone as needed.
Ability to sit, stand, walk, bend, push, run or lift as needed.
Ability to lift up to 50 lbs.
Ability to travel via air or car as needed to races.
Must be able to work in an outdoor environment in variable weather conditions.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by JP1738

Y'all are misunderstanding me; I mean I'll let them tear me down, but that's gonna do it for me. I feel like I have the ability to put one back together, but I probably won't be doing it at the race track. Better safe than sorry, I do not have the funds to screw my motor up and replace it.

Just curious , how many years have you been racing in stock AND what is your combination ?? CHEERS !!!

[Mike Gray]

Originally Posted by 1347

I think most of us would be happy with at least pulling heads for teardown. putting that car out of the race the next day. I know I know, the statement from someone will be " Thats their choice for picking that combo " It is, but you have to at least give them enough time to put it back together.

How much time are we talking about? (I'm a .90's guy switching to stock) I think if it's not at least overnight I'm not getting it done in time for a round of racing. I just had a hiccup firing up my new stocker motor for the 1st time. I had a little problem with an intake gasket and let some water get into the lifter valley. Pulling the top end, valve train and intake and re-assembly (minus clean up) was a good 4hrs of work. Taking out a piston dealing with BBF headers in a 60's mustang would add about 6-7 more hours. I'm not as young as I use to be and might fall asleep under the car. LOL

[GUMP]

This has gone way off topic. In Division 2, pre-Covid, we had Class at every National Event. The quotas were low, most were three day events, and there was very little teardown. I never once witnessed a racer refuse the trophy for any reason.

I really don't understand why you guys are going out of your way to justify the NHRA's decision to drop one of the few things that make what we do stand out.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by GUMP

I really don't understand why you guys are going out of your way to justify the NHRA's decision to drop one of the few things that make what we do stand out.

Daren, NHRA's decision is based on it's own time constraints and Class Elimination's relevance. It's just not relevant to run when you have a 50-60 car field. There's nothing that "stands out" about a handful of classes with a couple of cars and "combo" eliminations. At least not to me.
I always enjoy running class and I wish that I could do it more often than I do but as I've said on here before I don't like running Natl. Events anymore. I DO enjoy the Sportsnationals concept and I wish that NHRA would take a serious look at running class at certain Div. Events where the car counts would make Class Eliminations relevant again OR have more Sportsnationals Events.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Just curious , how many years have you been racing in stock AND what is your combination ?? CHEERS !!!

Anxiously awaiting this response, myself

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Daren, NHRA's decision is based on it's own time constraints and Class Elimination's relevance. It's just not relevant to run when you have a 50-60 car field. There's nothing that "stands out" about a handful of classes with a couple of cars and "combo" eliminations. At least not to me.
I always enjoy running class and I wish that I could do it more often than I do but as I've said on here before I don't like running Natl. Events anymore. I DO enjoy the Sportsnationals concept and I wish that NHRA would take a serious look at running class at certain Div. Events where the car counts would make Class Eliminations relevant again OR have more Sportsnationals Events.

That's all good. I still prefer the watered-down version of Class Eliminations at Nationals over none.