Pray for ALL racers and families

[Randy Wells]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

I'm glad you enjoy your religion. And I'm sure there are folks who benefit from it now and then, as a crutch to get themselves through difficult times.

But, in reality religion is nothing more than fantasy theater. All the players get bit parts and play it out as they see fit. But there is absolutely no proof that any god exists, or has ever existed. God is simply a man made fiction that can be used to control large groups of people as Constatine discovered in 330AD.

Wow you are a commie, LOL

[BRETV]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

I'm glad you enjoy your religion. And I'm sure there are folks who benefit from it now and then, as a crutch to get themselves through difficult times.

But, in reality religion is nothing more than fantasy theater. All the players get bit parts and play it out as they see fit. But there is absolutely no proof that any god exists, or has ever existed. God is simply a man made fiction that can be used to control large groups of people as Constatine discovered in 330AD.

So who created you Bruce? There is much proof to God's existence. Constatine is only man's opinion, Give me proof He doesn't exist.



Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

[Bruce Noland]

Originally Posted by BRETV

So who created you Bruce? There is much proof to God's existence. Constatine is only man's opinion, Give me proof He doesn't exist.




Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

Nice try. But when it comes to god, the burden of proof is on you. Good luck with that!

[Greg Reimer 7376]

[quote=bretv;614823]

Originally Posted by ghost

sorry for me but, i don't believe in a god. There is too much injustice in this world

it actually takes more faith to believe there is no god that created all of the earth, humans, animals, insects, birds, fish, trees, flowers the whole science and the order of things in this world and how it all works too some kind of accident. God created this world to have no injustice. Adam and eve were made sinless, this world was first created to be perfect but they chose to go against god, they had freewill and sinned in the garden of eden and from that day forward every human was born a sinner. Hence all the injustice and evil in this world. So to save his creation and not let us all die and be damned forever, because he is a perfect and all loving god, he sent his perfect and sinless son jesus to die for my sins, your sins and every persons sins. His death and blood, shed on the cross, covers everyone's sins past, present and future. All god is asking us to do is believe his son jesus is who he says he is, and that he took our place and died for all of our sins. And when we die, we all will, whoever that believes will be with god in heaven and a new earth that he will set up with no more crying, pain, injustice and hurt. Just like it was meant to be from the beginning. Amen! Okay church is over. Sorry my fingers just started typing and i couldn't stop them. Lol




bret velde
2003 fs/??

[Greg Reimer 7376]

Bret, that's the most complete and concise depiction of the gospel of Christ I've ever seen.I know you have the agreement and the appreciation for your comments of many on this forum. I was very glad to read your comments. As far as injustice in this world, it has always been that way since the garden. I have to make sure I don't contribute to any of it in any way.That's my responsibility to my fellow man. I can't be responsible for what someone else does, I'm only accountable for my own actions. The evil in this planet didn't come from God, anyway.

[BRETV]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

Nice try. But when it comes to god, the burden of proof is on you. Good luck with that!

No, you said God didn't exist, it's on you to prove it. So again, who created you?

And you are right about religion, it does control people with it's rules. What I'm saying is, this is ALL about a relationship, not a set of religious rules to follow. We follow Him and His rules or I should say commandments because we are thankful for what HE has done and died for us. And the commandments He put into place is for our own good and well being. Just like when you were a kid and your father gave you rules to follow, to keep you safe and out of trouble. Again, it's about a relationship, NOT a religion or set of rules.



Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

[GTX JOHN]

MY God is Alive and on his Throne!

In 1994 I was on the way back from the Divisional late at night
with mytwo then young boys. I was pulling my E/SA Demon on a open
trailer with my small 1/2 ton truck. I was on a two lane road that was narrow
with steep shoulders on both sides. I was a new Christian at that
time. A Mazda Miata that was about a hundred feet ahead of us
tried to pass a truck on that narrow stretch. He hit headon a car
going around 60 the other direction.

The wreck was instant and massive. There was absolutely nothing
that I could do to avoid a imminent accident and possible death for
my young family! I closed my eyes and braced for the immediate
crash. For the longest couple of seconds of my life = I did not feel
anything at all. I opened my eyes and my entire rig was a couple
hundred feet beyond the wreck in my rear view mirror.

Feel free to chat with my boys or myself about this incident anytime
you see us at the track. I am will swear under penalty of perjury
the veracity of this incident. I have not related this incident outside
of Church because not many would believe it and probably lock us
all up at the Funny Farm.

AGAIN: My God is Alive and on his Throne!

We all believe whatever we believe = That is what makes us the people
that are!

[BRETV]

Originally Posted by GTX JOHN

MY God is Alive and on his Throne!

In 1994 I was on the way back from the Divisional with my
two then young boys. I was pulling my E/SA Demon on a open
trailer with my small 1/2 ton truck. I was on a two lane road that was narrow
with steep shoulders on both sides. I was a new Christian at that
time. A Mazda Miata that was about a hundred feet ahead of us
tried to pass a truck on that narrow stretch. He hit head on a car
going around 60 the other direction.

The wreck was instant and massive. There was absolutely nothing
that I could do to avoid a imminent accident and possible death for
my young family! I closed my eyes and braced for the immediate
crash. For the longest couple of seconds of my life = I did not feel
anything at all. I opened my eyes and my entire rig was a couple
hundred feet beyond the wreck in my rear view mirror.

Feel free to chat with my boys or myself about this incident anytime
you see us at the track. I am will swear under penalty of perjury
the veracity of this incident. I have not related this incident outside
of Church because not many would believe it and probably lock us
all up at the Funny Farm.

AGAIN: My God is Alive and on his Throne!

We all believe whatever we believe = That is what makes us the people
that are!

John,

Thank you so much for sharing that. What a testimony, The Lord IS alive and seated at the right hand of the Father. God Bless. I really do love Mopar's too. Just was born in a Ford family. LOL




Bret Velde
2003 FS/??

[Stan Weiss]

Originally Posted by Bruce Noland

I'm glad you enjoy your religion. And I'm sure there are folks who benefit from it now and then, as a crutch to get themselves through difficult times.

But, in reality religion is nothing more than fantasy theater. All the players get bit parts and play it out as they see fit. But there is absolutely no proof that any god exists, or has ever existed. God is simply a man made fiction that can be used to control large groups of people as Constatine discovered in 330AD.

AD 325 The First Council of Nicaea.

Stan

[Dwight Southerland]

You either see it or you don't. That's why it's described as faith. Some of the most educated and experienced people in the world who thought they were so smart stood in the presence of God and refused to see Him. The evidence of His working in history is there to see, but it can be denied by arrogance. Man's logic, science and mental abilities cannot even answer a simple question like "Is coffee good for me?", so why should I think that reason would provide an answer?