New Eliminator proposition

[Dick Butler]

The DR525 is the one I referred to in my discussion. A 350 I believe. Are all the three motors you refer to supposed to run together? or separate classes?

[Geerhead55]

Originally Posted by Tony Corley

But when was the last time Chevy put a 350 in a production vehicle? Chevy and Ford are already on board with the late model sealed engines, and I'm sure Chrysler would be easy enough to get to join in. The problem with "getting your hands dirty", as it were, is that is what runs the low budget guy out. Some guys are just better than others, can spend more money then others, etc. Stock Eliminator ring packages can cost north of $1000, and lifters run $1000-$1200, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Less than $7000 gets a complete, factry built and sealed, ready to race engine. Some people just don't have the time, resources to spend on every detail that it takes to build a winning engine combo. One friend of mine in NMRA spent a whole season swapping cam profiles. Tried 14 different cams, looking for a couple of horsepower. And he did when a championship that year. Silly stuff like that is where I see the advantage for sealed engines and tunes.
Then the guy getting beat knows it's not the trick of the week, and he needs to either work on the car or driver.


I think it would be really cool to see some of the older body styles with the late model engines. It gives us old guys the cars we love, the young guys the engines they love, the factories get to be involved with promoting their latest technology, and spectators and racers get to see/be involved in more Heads Up Racing. WIn/WIn for everybody.

"It would be really cool to see some of the older body styles with late model engines".
That class is already out there, it's call Superstock GT. I admit I'm an older guy and would love to see a modified type class created nowadays for those that would want to get involved, myself included.
Bryan, I respect your opinion, but personally I wouldn't want to see dragsters included here, there's plenty of places for those cars.
I hope this thing takes off. It won't be easy at the start, but it should evolve, participants willing. I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Danny Durham

[Tony Corley]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

The DR525 is the one I referred to in my discussion. A 350 I believe. Are all the three motors you refer to supposed to run together? or separate classes?

It is actually a 376 c.i LS3 engine.
The plan would be for the NHRA to run them all together, heads up. Weight and tune, (tune provided at the track, by sanctioning body) can be adjusted to keep playing fields level. The Ford is down by about 120 hp, compared to the Chevrolet, but minimum weights are less for the Ford.


Here are links to the 2 engines, as sold by Summit and Jegs


http://www.summitracing.com/parts/fm...Fe7m7AodLF8AdQ


http://www.jegs.com/p/Chevrolet-Perf...17524/10002/-1

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Dick Butler

The DR525 is the one I referred to in my discussion. A 350 I believe. Are all the three motors you refer to supposed to run together? or separate classes?

The DR525 is 376 ci. At this time, the CP/S and C/S classes are run separately (NMCA/NMRA). They may run the classes against each other at Joliet later this year, but I am not 100% on that. Chrysler does not offer anything for this type of racing.

[Tony Corley]

Originally Posted by Geerhead55

"It would be really cool to see some of the older body styles with late model engines".
That class is already out there, it's call Superstock GT.
Danny Durham

Index/breakout class. Not close to the same, lol

[Dick Butler]

I reviewed the rules. They sound very restrictive and complete. No wonder they are being built for fun. Seems at one reading someone put a lot of thought into all the fine points to keep it minimalist.

Only issue that can be raised is only one brand which personally is fine but thought of Econo Mod was to include ALL by using Same lb per cubic and Brodix spec heads which are VERY close to same flow for all brands...

[Tony Corley]

You must have only read one set of rules. There are 2 sets I linked. One for Coyote Stock, and one for Chevrolet Performance Stock. The same premise could be followed with Chrysler to include them. They also have several crate engines that are similar in hp to the Chevrolet and Ford.

[Rose Racing]

A CS build on another site http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/sh...light=maverick

I watched the CS at NMRA at Norwalk and was impressed nearly every car had a 4 or 5 speed and it was a fun class to watch BUT Stock has soooo much more variety with Chargers GTOs older mustangs etc could you make a larger older car such as a chevelle,charger,gto etc compete against a sea of mustangs in this class? Im not racing a fox and be like everybody else!!!!!

[Tony Corley]

In the Chevrolet Performance rules, they have made the minimum weight higher so that older cars will be more competitive. Think they also get a slight weight break, and a few concessions chassis wise. The Coyote Stock class has some concessions also for the older cars, there are just so many Fox Bodies that were laying around, that's what most are running.


Obviously, if NHRA were to pick up something like these classes, adjustments could be made to make certain the older cars were just as competitive as the new. I never said these rules should be used verbatim, just showed how simple they were.