What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? - Page 3

Troy Pourciau · 09-16-2014, 04:37 PM

NHRA's Charlotte misadventure: There's a problem in Pro Stock.

Here we go..... You must read on - http://www.motorsport.com/nhra/news/...-in-pro-stock/

GUMP · 09-16-2014, 05:16 PM

One of the Funny Car crew chiefs commented that the track was good until 550 ft. After that he said it was like driving on the surface of the moon! This was before Pro Stock ran. I witnessed the wreck and am really happy that the driver is OK. It took a long time for him to get out of the car.

Alan Roehrich · 09-16-2014, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Troy Pourciau

NHRA's Charlotte misadventure: There's a problem in Pro Stock.

Here we go..... You must read on - http://www.motorsport.com/nhra/news/...-in-pro-stock/

What the heck does EFI have to do with the track conditions and the crash?

Because that seems to be the author's big problem with Pro Stock, that they use, dear Lord, of all things, carburetors.

blkjack · 09-16-2014, 09:20 PM

posted on YB

"they don't run any weekly races, TNT, nothing. You let a track sit for many months, then show up and try and prep it for these cars....ain't going to happen. Even if they get a marginal (at best) surface the groove is going to be about 6" wider than the cars."

here's some CONCRETE evidence from Bobby

http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...obody-will-win

Barry Polley · 09-20-2014, 01:17 PM

Lack of track period. They don't make a wicker big enough to fix that.

jmcarter · 09-20-2014, 02:28 PM

I don't understand why Bruton (think his son actually runs the complex at Charlotte) doesn't run the track more often. They haven't even hosted a Divisional the last couple of years. While across the highway from CMS which hosts many events there is plenty of room for segregating the fans/parking and get plenty of crossover fans at the same time. Bruton's Bristol facility is similar (on a smaller scale) and they run a regular bracket program and several special events (Super Chevy, MOPAR, Spring Fling, etc). The facility at Concord is really outstanding, just have to manage the drag strip and they wouldn't have any issues. They could run a regular bracket program, barely break even or lose money and still be money ahead when you consider the fans they lost due to this fiasco.

cicero819 · 09-20-2014, 02:36 PM

Pro-Stock has been a pain in the a&$ of NHRA for a while, do not be surprise when they decide to drop the other shoe and dump that category. Give them more wing and for God sake have them hurry up the show! CR

barnca2010 · 09-20-2014, 02:49 PM

We had a great discussion last Weds about events at Charlotte..

You can check out the conversation here if you would like.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/vlf1/20...o-weds-at-7-pm

Sam Hamod · 09-20-2014, 03:09 PM

I may be wrong, but......It is my understanding that if you put more wing in them then you must compensate with more down force on the front end. If not then you create a loose configuration on the front end. As we all know there are MANY problems with pro stock the way it is configured today!

09-16-2014, 04:37 PM	#21
Troy Pourciau Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 678 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? NHRA's Charlotte misadventure: There's a problem in Pro Stock. Here we go..... You must read on - http://www.motorsport.com/nhra/news/...-in-pro-stock/ __________________ Troy "City Dog" Pourciau

09-16-2014, 05:16 PM	#22
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,665 Likes: 1,709 Liked 1,732 Times in 418 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? One of the Funny Car crew chiefs commented that the track was good until 550 ft. After that he said it was like driving on the surface of the moon! This was before Pro Stock ran. I witnessed the wreck and am really happy that the driver is OK. It took a long time for him to get out of the car.

09-16-2014, 09:20 PM	#24
blkjack Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Belle Vernon, PA Posts: 281 Likes: 25 Liked 51 Times in 16 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? posted on YB "they don't run any weekly races, TNT, nothing. You let a track sit for many months, then show up and try and prep it for these cars....ain't going to happen. Even if they get a marginal (at best) surface the groove is going to be about 6" wider than the cars." here's some CONCRETE evidence from Bobby http://www.competitionplus.com/drag-...obody-will-win Last edited by blkjack; 09-16-2014 at 09:30 PM.

09-20-2014, 01:17 PM	#25
Barry Polley Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Vacaville Ca Posts: 743 Likes: 652 Liked 555 Times in 230 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? Lack of track period. They don't make a wicker big enough to fix that. __________________ Barry Polley 758 A/SA California- No place to race!

09-20-2014, 02:28 PM	#26
jmcarter VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Richmond Hill GA (and Port Ludlow WA) Posts: 4,122 Likes: 1,978 Liked 2,707 Times in 853 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? I don't understand why Bruton (think his son actually runs the complex at Charlotte) doesn't run the track more often. They haven't even hosted a Divisional the last couple of years. While across the highway from CMS which hosts many events there is plenty of room for segregating the fans/parking and get plenty of crossover fans at the same time. Bruton's Bristol facility is similar (on a smaller scale) and they run a regular bracket program and several special events (Super Chevy, MOPAR, Spring Fling, etc). The facility at Concord is really outstanding, just have to manage the drag strip and they wouldn't have any issues. They could run a regular bracket program, barely break even or lose money and still be money ahead when you consider the fans they lost due to this fiasco. __________________ Jim Carter 2340 Super Stock 2340 SST/2340 Stock

09-20-2014, 02:36 PM	#27
cicero819 VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Aylmer Quebec, Canada Posts: 1,086 Likes: 31 Liked 67 Times in 29 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? Pro-Stock has been a pain in the a&$ of NHRA for a while, do not be surprise when they decide to drop the other shoe and dump that category. Give them more wing and for God sake have them hurry up the show! CR

09-20-2014, 02:49 PM	#28
barnca2010 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 621 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? We had a great discussion last Weds about events at Charlotte.. You can check out the conversation here if you would like. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/vlf1/20...o-weds-at-7-pm __________________ I take pictures. And shoot arrows. https://www.facebook.com/WHEELZUPRADIO

09-20-2014, 03:09 PM	#29
Sam Hamod Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 92 Likes: 1 Liked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Re: What caused V. Gaines to crash @ Carolina Nats? I may be wrong, but......It is my understanding that if you put more wing in them then you must compensate with more down force on the front end. If not then you create a loose configuration on the front end. As we all know there are MANY problems with pro stock the way it is configured today! __________________ Sam Hamod 3456 STK