Throttle Limiters

[4543]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Don't think for one minute that they can't!

Billy, You have been complaining about this for a long time. If you think it can be done show us how to do it. I really want to know how it’s being done! Mike McMahan 2543 H/SA

[PozQB14]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Why wouldn't they just plug the desired ET into their Grid and/or data recorder?

I use a grid, you can look at my data if you'd like at any time. But nowhere that I have seen can you plug an ET in anywhere. There's a G-Meter that works with a grid, or basically a driveshaft sensor, that you can run which I'm 100% against and should be illegal on every car in the staging lanes in Stock and Super Stock. Those can easily be policed in the lanes or at fuel check or any damn place.

[SSDiv6]

Originally Posted by PozQB14

I use a grid, you can look at my data if you'd like at any time. But nowhere that I have seen can you plug an ET in anywhere. There's a G-Meter that works with a grid, or basically a driveshaft sensor, that you can run which I'm 100% against and should be illegal on every car in the staging lanes in Stock and Super Stock. Those can easily be policed in the lanes or at fuel check or any damn place.

You are correct; you cannot input ET's into an MSD Grid.

The only device you can input the ET is a crossover box that works similar to a delay box. It allows you to react off your opponent's side of the tree only when you are the quicker car. You enter your dial in and the opponents dial in into the delay box and it automatically calculates the difference.

[PozQB14]

Originally Posted by SSDiv6

You are correct; you cannot input ET's into an MSD Grid.

The only device you can input the ET is a crossover box that works similar to a delay box. It allows you to react off your opponent's side of the tree only when you are the quicker car. You enter your dial in and the opponents dial in into the delay box and it automatically calculates the difference.

Right. It's safe to say the majority of us here understand the workings of delay boxes. I was more or less referencing that the grid doesn't do all the magic that people think it does. Maybe if it's paired with a race pack so you can mess with fuel curves on a carb engine. But then again, the EFI combos all have that capability and a million other options that I'm slowly learning about.

This probably isn't the thread for this opinion but oh well. Who cares about reatrictor plates or timing curves. You can drop at 900' feet for all I care. Lonnie, if you're reading any of these posts...take a closer look at the cars that are purposely built illegaly. Stick a magnet to a fender or wheel tub. See if it sticks. Look under the cars for wires and electronics that don't belong. Bring some integrity back to these classes.

[KennyAnderson]

Throttle limiters?? Hell! I'm looking at throttle openers!! LMAO!!

[rognelson777]

you guys need to watch big dollar bracket races final rounds on motormania tv. footbrake cars puting .010 packages together. it is about cutting a light and finish line racing. my friend who wins a lot puts over 200 runs on his car a year. 4 day race will be 30 runs sometimes when winning.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Lenny5160

Why wouldn't they just plug the desired ET into their Grid and/or data recorder?

You are missing the point of this thread. This ties directly to the AHFS.

[SSDiv6]

Many years ago, NHRA was looking at the wiring of the Idle Stop on Quadrajet carburetors. It appears some racers found a way to use it as a throttle limiter by using a toggle switch.
As I stated earlier, racers are creative and there are many ways to skin a cat. (Sorry Cat Lovers... )

[gumple]

Originally Posted by GUMP

You are missing the point of this thread. This ties directly to the AHFS.

Most of us understand that you are on a mission to un-ring the bell on the changes to the AHFS. The point you are missing is that the AHFS is of no concern to more than 80% of the racers because they never will trip the review triggers. And most of us understand that you are simply trying to recruit us to do your bidding to enhance your racing program. NHRA understands that as well. I'm sure they have read your posts about admonishing fellow Camaros racers for going too fast. You brought this on yourself. The changes will likely stay in place to the AHFS - which, by the way, is the same AHFS as we have raced under for 20 years. Stop whining and race your cars.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by gumple

Most of us understand that you are on a mission to un-ring the bell on the changes to the AHFS. The point you are missing is that the AHFS is of no concern to more than 80% of the racers because they never will trip the review triggers. And most of us understand that you are simply trying to recruit us to do your bidding to enhance your racing program. NHRA understands that as well. I'm sure they have read your posts about admonishing fellow Camaros racers for going too fast. You brought this on yourself. The changes will likely stay in place to the AHFS - which, by the way, is the same AHFS as we have raced under for 20 years. Stop whining and race your cars.

LOL!!