Stock Eliminator

[Fred Elsass]

I am one of the few who was there in 1972 when Super Stock and Stock rules were changed. It was at that time I purchased a 1965 Chevrolet Biscayne 283 2bbl and went to work. All you were allowed to do was blueprint the engine. You were allowed to use slicks if they had a tread pattern. That was when drag racing was fun.


Now to address the class vs. bracket racing discussion. I hate to point this out but if you can run .01 under the index you are a bracket racer. A good corporate plan would be for NHRA to set up at least 10 brackets and lets go bracket racing and have fun. Oh, I forgot, class racing is all about EGO. I can go faster than you, look at me, am I not something. The only thing I need is a W on the time slip to feed my EGO.


Oh yes, I have been in five national finals and have two wins. In 1974 and 1975 I raced at least fifty times each year. I am one of the few stock racers who can say they reported earning a profit on his income tax racing.



Today, it costs 16K for a stock engine and 60K for a Super Stock engine. In stock today you can have any duration cam that will work in the engine, any spring that will fit the pocket, heads that cost 5K, any corporate transmission, any corporate third member on and on.


What say you??


FREDERICK L. ELSASS
Senior Master Sergeant
United States Air Force
Retired not Expired

[Billy Nees]

What say me?
Well, that's a rather broad question ain't it Sarge?
Ya know, even here in the 21St Century, Stock Eliminator still has a place and a combo for everybody. And ya know, Bracket Racing has become so specialized that unless you're running for trophies at your local track, there really ain't much of a place for "everybody" anymore.
If you want to do a brand new factory car and can afford it, go for it!
If you can only afford a Omni or a Cobalt, go for it!
In Stock Eliminator, they both have the same chance to win.
The way I look at it, you can either get off of your wallet or get off of your arse.

[tstickff]

All about Ego?? No actually it’s about fun, people who like to play by a certain set of rules, a rule book, people who like the competition. Is it hard? Yes it is, is it expensive? Yes, it’s not for everyone

Now if we wanted to bracket race we would, no offense but it seems that it’s been a while since you have raced, if you want to bracket race then go for it, otherwise stop preaching, us “class Racer’s” choose to do this not to be chastised because of the general cost of it. And if you think building a nice bracket car is any cheaper your wrong

Just my two cents

Tim

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Fred Elsass

I am one of the few who was there in 1972 when Super Stock and Stock rules were changed. It was at that time I purchased a 1965 Chevrolet Biscayne 283 2bbl and went to work. All you were allowed to do was blueprint the engine. You were allowed to use slicks if they had a tread pattern. That was when drag racing was fun.


Now to address the class vs. bracket racing discussion. I hate to point this out but if you can run .01 under the index you are a bracket racer. A good corporate plan would be for NHRA to set up at least 10 brackets and lets go bracket racing and have fun. Oh, I forgot, class racing is all about EGO. I can go faster than you, look at me, am I not something. The only thing I need is a W on the time slip to feed my EGO.


Oh yes, I have been in five national finals and have two wins. In 1974 and 1975 I raced at least fifty times each year. I am one of the few stock racers who can say they reported earning a profit on his income tax racing.



Today, it costs 16K for a stock engine and 60K for a Super Stock engine. In stock today you can have any duration cam that will work in the engine, any spring that will fit the pocket, heads that cost 5K, any corporate transmission, any corporate third member on and on.


What say you??


FREDERICK L. ELSASS
Senior Master Sergeant
United States Air Force
Retired not Expired

They had Pure Stock and Crate Motors that were less expensive.
IHRA ran them and NHRA refused to support those classes.

[GTS340]

Those "good ole days".

[Keith 944]

Oh boy, never, ever tell a stocker he is nothing more than a bracket racer. 😂

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

They had Pure Stock and Crate Motors that were less expensive.
IHRA ran them and NHRA refused to support those classes.

Hey Dan, will you PLEASE just stop.
You have spent more monies on your "Pure" Stocker than I have in any of my "Real" Stockers.
It's done and gone. And they've proven that the worlds not flat and the moon isn't made of cheese.

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Keith 944

Oh boy, never, ever tell a stocker he is nothing more than a bracket racer. 😂

Hey Keith, would you PLEASE give a rest too? I can pretty well guarantee that most of the Stocker Racers I know put in more laps Bracket Racing than you do. For that matter, they put in more laps Bracket Racing than Stocker Racing.

[GUMP]

Originally Posted by Dan Fahey

They had Pure Stock and Crate Motors that were less expensive.
IHRA ran them and NHRA refused to support those classes.

The NHRA is allowing them to run at National Opens here in Division 2. To date the support from racers with these cars has not been very good.

A "good" crate motor car would be every bit as expensive as a "good" conventional stocker.......

[Keith 944]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Hey Keith, would you PLEASE give a rest too? I can pretty well guarantee that most of the Stocker Racers I know put in more laps Bracket Racing than you do. For that matter, they put in more laps Bracket Racing than Stocker Racing.

Doubtful, but If you say so pops