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Old 04-16-2014, 11:35 PM   #1
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Doing a Belvedere 1 6 passenger wagon with a 10:1 273 just have a few questions can I run a run a 4 barrel and can I run a 4 speed Trans thanks I am new to all of this but look forward to it also need help on what my index would be!
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Old 04-16-2014, 11:51 PM   #2
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2 BBL only. Compression somewhere around 8.5:1. No 273/4V hypo motors with the SW. Bill Koski is selling one in the classified but it is a sedan/hardtop.
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Old 04-17-2014, 12:03 AM   #3
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Go to NHRARACER.COM and look up the vehicle you want to run. Click on Stock Car Classification, then click on the year under the make you want to run. This will give you the info you want; motor, hp, weight, index. Then look under Engine Specs to find out about motor combo you want to run. Some will be auto only, some might be 2 bbl or 4 bbl only motors. I love wagons.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:18 AM   #4
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Looks like U/S @ 14.65 or U/SA @ 14.85 index...3500ish pounds.
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Old 04-17-2014, 02:37 PM   #5
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If my memory serves me correct the 4bbl Hi-Po motor only came in the Dart and Barracuda and I think it was a 10.25:1 motor w/solid cam.

The 273 CI wagon only came with a 2bbl Carter Ball&Ball carburetor. Not sure if a 4 speed was available.

I am pretty sure you are going to have to run 8.5:1 CR pistons in your combo. However, a 65 Plymouth Wagon would be a cool piece.

Did the wagon come with a 361 or a 383 in 65? I would check out the big block combo because I think they were available with a 4bbl.
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:14 AM   #6
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I looked up Bill Koski 's car it's a 66 273 2 barrel with a 4 speed so I Think I can run a 4 speed because I think it was an option in my year not sure who I would check wit to be sure!
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:22 AM   #7
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Didn't some of those 273's come with a Stromberg 2bbl?
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Here you go... http://www.oldride.com/library/1965_...belvedere.html
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Old 04-18-2014, 09:30 AM   #9
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Yes i believe they did have a stromburg and on that link it says the 4 speed was an option on all belvedere and satellite models.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:27 AM   #10
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A friend of mine used to run a 1965 Plymouth Valiant with the 273. I remember him telling me the 1965 273 had a bigger carb. From the specs from NHRA, it looks like the Stromberg has a slightly larger venturi than the Carter BBD.

180 273 DP 8.8 1-2 B&B BBD-3843S/SM 3844S/AUTO 2463252 1.5 M 57.3 B,5
Carter Carb sizes – 1437/1063
Strom Carb sizes – 1437/1125

It also looks like the 318s got a bigger carb. I never knew they were different.
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