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Old 02-07-2016, 07:37 PM   #21
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Mike , I think you're pretty darn close. At Indy last year the field was pretty well set on Wednesday ( per usual ). The weather really turned to **** on Thursday. On Wednesday I had a severe case of Indyidis. My head was so far up my rear end I could see my tonsils. While nearly everyone slowed a tenth to 15 hun on Thursday, I decided to view the sunlight and picked up a 10th. I "think" I could of ( woulda coulda shoulda) run 9.78 - 9.80 on Wednesday ( not good enough ). Had Chuck come to Indy he might have gotten in with a 9.70 or 9.71. If Brian would have shown with the Alum. Chevy, on kill, he may have run even better in that junk air, maybe 9.67- 9.70. But, with that said "maybe" two of the fastest AA/SA in the country might have gotten in around 126 -128. The fact is they didn't even bother to show. I think that tells it all. I love stock eliminator racing, all classes, but I also know that the fans would rather watch "the faster" cars. In this new era of NHRA, I would think from a spectator stand point they'd like these faster cars to show up at their major venue races. It's pretty cool to see a AA car chasing down a U / stocker! But you have to be able to race on race day. One thing for sure, class eliminations would be a lot more fun. And with an index adjustment AA/stock ...might ...(and that's a stretch).. stand chance if they have to run the combo.
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Old 02-07-2016, 07:59 PM   #22
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10.80 or 10.85.
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Old 02-07-2016, 09:09 PM   #23
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Ahhhh the voice of reason has finally spoken.
C'mon Larry....let's hear it from you. Your dog will be back in this hunt real soon...so you don't get a pass here....nor do you really want one!
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Old 02-08-2016, 12:46 PM   #24
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Default Re: Has anyone changed their mind about AA/SA index?

The AA/S (10.60) and A/S (10.95) combinations fall into SS/D (10.20) SS/E (10.25). Why are the SS indexs (.05 for the stick and .15 for auto) so tight and the Stock indexs spread out ( .35 for stick and .40 for the auto) so far?

MOST of the cars are factored at or around 400hp/200 lbs. The difference between some of the "natural" AA cars and A cars are light weight body components / fresh air with both using identical engines. Additional HP factors in most cases do reflect the "special" components which in reallity negate their use/exsistence.

Not sure what I am trying to say...may have answered my own question.

10.80 to 10.85 would make sense.

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Old 02-08-2016, 02:43 PM   #25
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I don't have a dog in this fight but I definitely feel like 10.75-10.80 makes more sense on the index and realistically A/SA should be 10.05 or if it stays at 10.00 B/SA should be 10.20 to make everything fall in line...just my 2 cents
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Old 02-08-2016, 04:39 PM   #26
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Sherman, hush up and leave B/SA alone. I just got here. hehehehe Next thing I know you will be wearing cowboy boots and riding some nag. Must be the air in Texas does that.
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Old 02-08-2016, 10:20 PM   #27
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Sherman, hush up and leave B/SA alone. I just got here. hehehehe Next thing I know you will be wearing cowboy boots and riding some nag. Must be the air in Texas does that.
Never gonna wear a cowboy boots or hat! lol...
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:01 PM   #28
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Ok, so the fastest AA car in the nation runs 9.604 at Pomona. ( hardly enough to get a HP hit .) That equates to -.896 under at Indy last year...so at Indy he get's in at #119. None of the other four AA cars come even close to making the 128 car Indy field. Point being made - they're all really fast cars. An adjustment in the AA index is the fare thing for NHRA to do.
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Old 02-11-2016, 09:52 PM   #29
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Agreed. Don't know what the CF was when he made that run but allowing a tenth is very conservative.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:39 AM   #30
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Oh, I forgot R. We take it in the pants for another tenth for R and T then U gets back a tenth. U to V is a 2lb. difference and V gets shorted .05 AND it's 6 cyl. only.
There is a turbo 4 cylinder in V too.
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