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Old 12-25-2019, 10:21 PM   #121
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Danny is a member here and was a friend of Mike M's.You can try PM'ing him, he may have some old pics.Not sure but Chuck's car may have gone to CA.Also you can try to PM Bill Rink(if he doesn't see this first) he's run his for years in STK and now SS.He may have more info on these cars.And you have pics of Brad's car as he currently runs it...gsa612
Auto Imagery has all of the pictures of my '74 at the NHRA National events.Go to their web site and type in my name in the box. There's hundreds of shots.
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Old 12-25-2019, 10:25 PM   #122
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Well, we've mentioned all the GTO's, in order, except the last one. For '74, the GTO was an X-body, and had a 350 engine.

But, as drag racers are known to do, some guys decided to see what they could get out of the '74 GTO. So, there have been a few '74's that did very well, including some record holders.

I think I've mentioned this, but the first to run a '74, that I'm aware of, was Rock Running. Think I posted a pic of his Super Sleeper '74 GTO.

Al Vanis won Indy with a Ventura II. It wasn't a real GTO. But, NHRA allows the same engine in a plain '74 Vent. So, for this discussion, there is really no difference. You can even run this engine in a 4-door Vent, or most any 2 or 4-door Lemans.

http://www.classracerinfo.com/Engine...px?ENGINE=2088

Bill Rink's '74 GTO is listed as the J/SA class winner at the 2005 US Nats.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop

He qualified #21, with a 1.141 under, 11.609.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2005#indextop

The quickest '74 GTO Stocker, that I know of, belongs to Brad Koivisto. I'll look it up, but I think he ran some low 11's this year.

So, Rock Running's Super sleeper won class at the US Nats. Al Vanis won Stock at the US Nats, in a '74 Vent, the Duttweiler Automotive '74 GTO was class record holder for 5 years straight, from 1991 thru '95, & Bill Rink won class & was #21 qualifier, at Indy, in '05. That ain't a bad showing for the little 350 powered X-bodies.

Brad Koivisto ran a .939 under 11.211 at this July race, to qualify #6. So, I'd say the '74 Pontiac GTO was competitive in the the mid '70's, the first half of the '90's, the early 2000's, & still is, today.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r=100#indextop

Will be lookin for more info & pics of '74 350 powered Pontiac X-body Stockers. So, anybody with info and/or pics please post that info.
I'm proud to say that I was the dumb *** that put 27 horsepower on that combination in Stock over a 12 year period. From 250 to 277. That's the reason I switched over to S/S in 2008.
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Old 12-25-2019, 11:23 PM   #123
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Saving this spot for more Randi Lyn info & pics.

Anybody know how many races Randi Lyn has won with the Bird. Would like a break down of nat events, div races, and all smaller races.

Her FB friends list is full. But, one of my FB friends is on her list. So, I've asked him to try & get some info from her.

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Old 12-25-2019, 11:48 PM   #124
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Thought of another Pontiac record holder. Scott Underhill's '71 455HO powered T-37 held the E/SA nat record, for a while. And I think his engine just got a 5hp reduction.
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Old 12-26-2019, 12:56 AM   #125
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I'm proud to say that I was the dumb *** that put 27 horsepower on that combination in Stock over a 12 year period. From 250 to 277. That's the reason I switched over to S/S in 2008.
Yeah, I'd heard you were responsible.

I think they give Bob Aceves the credit for the 8hp hike in the '68 Bird 330hp car. I could hardly believe it when I saw that they just took 5hp back off that combo.

I've noticed that sometimes the exact same engine will have a higher factor in different body styles. One of those is the 1977 400 180hp engine. It gets 283 in a Bird. But, you can run it in anything else at 260hp. I suppose there were certain cars running real quick with that combo, that caused the hit.

But, from what I've read here, it's not just Pontiac engines that get this treatment. I reckin it just depends on which body styles are makin the noise.
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Old 12-26-2019, 01:03 AM   #126
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Auto Imagery has all of the pictures of my '74 at the NHRA National events.Go to their web site and type in my name in the box. There's hundreds of shots.
Yeah, I did that for a few years. But now when I go to that site no box shows up to type a name into. You only have the option of which race you want to see pics of.

Or, maybe they just changed the format or something. It doesn't work for me like it use to.

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Old 12-26-2019, 01:49 AM   #127
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The next '67 Bird I wanna talk about belongs to Bryan Phillips. As mentioned, it should be exactly the same combo as Randi Lyn runs.

While lookin thru the Indy class winners, I noticed that Bryan got the D/SA class win, in 2012, with a 10.733.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2012#indextop

In the middle of July this year, he qualified #24, with a 10.695, in D/SA, at a West coast Lucas Oil Series race.

https://www.dragracecentral.com/DRCS...r2019#indextop
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Right now, this is the only other pic I have of a '67 Bird Stocker. Don't know who it belongs to or any other info.

So, I need some help makin an ID. The permanent # looks to begin with a 7. So, I assume it was a West coast car.

And, I need names and/or pics of other '67 Bird Stockers.
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Old 12-26-2019, 10:39 AM   #129
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Here's some '67 Bird Stockers. One has an OHC Six.
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Old 12-26-2019, 11:15 AM   #130
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Lee Bannister comes to mind, in 1999-2000 he was in 11 finals and won 8 of them in NHRA and IHRA i belive it was a 1972 firebird 455 that was driven by the creator of the Texas Twister "Lee B" himself which many got to experience first hand. Not sure how fast it would run but, rarely lost a hdsup in elimination's and surprised quite a few.
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