Nat'l Entries

[Rory McNeil]

Maybe I just don`t understand NHRAs logic, but to me it would make more sense to have the quotas set at a number that would make for a full eliminator field. Instead of having a limit of 60 cars, which would means numerous bye runs, making the quota 64 cars seems much more logical. Also, I thought that NHRA was streamlining their racer licensing procedure to encourage more Sportsman participation, doesn`t having Sportsman quota limits seem to work against that theory?

[Billy Nees]

Originally Posted by Rory McNeil

Also, I thought that NHRA was streamlining their racer licensing procedure to encourage more Sportsman participation

I believe that NHRA wants to encourage Sportsman participation at the Divisional level.
As far as the National level, I don't think they've figured out how to get us to go away yet.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by Billy Nees

I believe that NHRA wants to encourage Sportsman participation at the Divisional level.
As far as the National level, I don't think they've figured out how to get us to go away yet.

Whoot..there it is.

[MR DERBY CITY]

Ya know guys , they have meetings in the Ivory Tower about the sportsman racers. Geez, what else can we do to discourage these guys ? We haven't raised the payout in years, put em in the north 40 pit area, make em take 4 days off for work, pee test the hell out them, I thought the muffler issue would thin out the Super Classes,,,and then a revelation....These guys just keep showing up, they just really love to race ??

[HR9121]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Ya know guys , they have meetings in the Ivory Tower about the sportsman racers. Geez, what else can we do to discourage these guys ? We haven't raised the payout in years, put em in the north 40 pit area, make em take 4 days off for work, pee test the hell out them, I thought the muffler issue would thin out the Super Classes,,,and then a revelation....These guys just keep showing up, they just really love to race ??

MJ you just described the whole fall Charlotte race for me except the part about being yelled at for trying to drive around the end of the track. Even he looked surprised to know I parked on the other side.

[Mark Yacavone]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Ya know guys , they have meetings in the Ivory Tower about the sportsman racers. Geez, what else can we do to discourage these guys ? We haven't raised the payout in years, put em in the north 40 pit area, make em take 4 days off for work, pee test the hell out them, I thought the muffler issue would thin out the Super Classes,,,and then a revelation....These guys just keep showing up, they just really love to race ??

Raise entry fees, lower quotas...

[Adger Smith]

I think Billy is correct about what NHRA is attempting to do. NHRA sells the divisional program to the track that is putting it on for a "Package Price" That is the driving force in the change for the "Alky Sportsman" classes to go to a regional program. The cost of a "Divisional Package" got too high for the track owners to make a profit. Most of the tracks couldn't handle the 400 cars it took to crack the "nut" and make a profit. NHRA reduced the cost by eliminating the two most costly classes. With the Regional program they have a package they can sell to tracks that can handle the car count and have the spectator base that supports the Alky classes. Now NHRA has realized it must take steps to bring participation back to the divisional races. Everyone wants to skip over the Divisional races and enter the "Prestigious National Events". I've been told that Comp is usually subsidized by other classes. It doesn't have a paying car count. Study the recent rule changes that are directed at Comp. This is all just a numbers game with the numbers manipulated for a better bottom line. The real message is, Please consider yourself one of those numbers. That is just "Business in Corporate America".

[Ed Wright]

^^^^^Nailed it!

[GarysZ24]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Terrible Ted, sorry but I only know how to speak the truth. there are already 52 entries for Phoenix, 8 more and it's full. Your driver can't enter till next Wednesday so......

Mr Derby City, I know the REAL reason Mark asked this question, and you partially touched on it with your "Your driver" comment...His "driver" races a DF/S classed car that ran exactly .727 further under the 'Vegas DF/S index than my car last Nov., so he feels it'll be an EASY Wally trophy for him to get. If he gets in, good for him, because winning class pays nothing anymore where my cars concerned, so I could care less about winning class! However, since now there's only 3 spots left for entry into the Arizona race, he might want to start sweating a bit, because his grade 1 may have as much luck in getting into the field as my grade 2 had at last years Winternationals!

I actually hope his driver does make it into the field, because it's not like he's going to be able to race me in the first round of eliminations anyway (given we race in a category where qualifying comes down to hundreds/thousandths of a second), and I would have better chances of winning in the lottery than he will of qualifying his car so he can race me in the first round! Oh, and one more point, should he try to do such a thing (and succeed), he'll expose himself to the stocker racers who check qualifying sheets to analyze their opponents runs, and if he's not able to adjust himself for a race against a non-DF/S car, that lucky opponent of his will be like an alpha wolf licking his chops to line up next to him! If I'm not in eliminations at that point, I'll be an interested spectator for sure!!!!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by GarysZ24

Mr Derby City, I know the REAL reason Mark asked this question, and you partially touched on it with your "Your driver" comment...His "driver" races a DF/S classed car that ran exactly .727 further under the 'Vegas DF/S index than my car last Nov., so he feels it'll be an EASY Wally trophy for him to get. If he gets in, good for him, because winning class pays nothing anymore where my cars concerned, so I could care less about winning class! However, since now there's only 3 spots left for entry into the Arizona race, he might want to start sweating a bit, because his grade 1 may have as much luck in getting into the field as my grade 2 had at last years Winternationals!

I actually hope his driver does make it into the field, because it's not like he's going to be able to race me in the first round of eliminations anyway (given we race in a category where qualifying comes down to hundreds/thousandths of a second), and I would have better chances of winning in the lottery than he will of qualifying his car so he can race me in the first round! Oh, and one more point, should he try to do such a thing (and succeed), he'll expose himself to the stocker racers who check qualifying sheets to analyze their opponents runs, and if he's not able to adjust himself for a race against a non-DF/S car, that lucky opponent of his will be like an alpha wolf licking his chops to line up next to him! If I'm not in eliminations at that point, I'll be an interested spectator for sure!!!!

Gee Gary , I sure am glad that you cleared all that up for me. I am utterly speechless after your dissertation. Mr. Derby......