Firebird Raceway....Future??

Mark Yacavone · 02-16-2011, 05:12 PM

I heard some rather disturbing news today about one of our local drag strips.
Rather than spreading unsubstantiated rumors ,I figure I'll let someone else do it.
What ya got??

Andys dad · 02-16-2011, 06:22 PM

The Indians want to build another Casino

The track attendence does not support a National event anyway

I heard this a year ago

Belair 7548 · 02-16-2011, 09:12 PM

Noooooooooo........but I guess one has to be racing for it to really matter............been parked due to the downturn..........maybe I should take up poker.........hummm might pay better than racing anyway.........and that's not saying much.

Say it isn't so..................someone

aspen7709 · 02-16-2011, 10:22 PM

I have not heard anything. I do a signifigant amount of advertising with Firebird and I know that it is solvent as far as i can tell you. Yes the indians want to build another casino but it would not benefit them as it would be too close to wild horse pass. Speedworld on the other hand is on the ropes as far as insurance goes. Look at the facility there. I have heard that it will be up for insurance renewal and it does not look good. Right now our most promising track is tucson and its IHRA now. Anyone wanna open up Beeline???

Kenny Newsome 7709 ?/sa

Jeff Kempton · 02-17-2011, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by aspen7709

I have heard that it will be up for insurance renewal and it does not look good.
Kenny Newsome 7709 ?/sa

Why would insurance be a problem for Speedworld? I've never been there. Is there something different about the layout or the safety features compared to other tracks that would suddenly make it cost prohibitive to insure?

I thought I'd heard some time ago that Firebird was being considered for replacement, and that the future of the National Event there was up in the air?

njk53 · 02-17-2011, 12:57 PM

First, there is so much open Indian land around Firebird and Casino why would you tear up the dragstrip to put in another Casino? Down the pike a short distance in Casa Grande is also a Casino. Can the area support another one?? I don't know.

Speedworld is a nice local track but, it is nowhere the size of Firebird. And I think couldn't support a national event just from a size perspective.

As far as I know, Bee Line Dragway still exists, let the excavating begin!!!

MattConte · 02-18-2011, 12:43 AM

Beeline is still there. The tower still stands. but everything is so far gone. It is also on Indian Rez I believe. Plus the top end of the track has been taken up with a small RV park and Skeet shooting range.
That will SUCK if we loose Firebird. I am heading out tomorrow for the Div.7 Opener. That is just about my favorite event of the year. I missed it last year because I had a blow out on my truck on the way out there. I had better enjoy it allot then. Might be the last time.
Speedworld is so cool because of it's size. It is an old track built in the 60s and it has not changed much over the years. It shut down once in the late 70s then reopened in 1988. It was Phoenix Raceway Park. I think that it might have a problem with the insurance because of the close confines of the track.

To me it is the greatest drag strip in the world. But It is very outdated. But that is what is so beautiful about it. I loved it when the Division 7 opener was held there.
If we loose both of these race tracks. It is going to SUCK here. It will give me more incentive to move as I am planning on it.

njk53 · 02-18-2011, 01:39 PM

It would really be a bummer if Firebird closed. I was really bummed out when they closed Manzanita Speedway. That place was there since the end of WWII. When you loose a track you almost will never get a replacement. There is a guy operating a Moto-Cross and sand drag facility on Ironwood south of the 60. I'm not sure but it might be Apache Junction. I wish he would put in a dragstrip. Plenty of space. Not sure if he is on Indian land though.

Jeff Stout · 02-18-2011, 06:41 PM

Dear Kenny,
I work out at Speedworld as race director and had to investigate this rumor. Just to clear the air Speedworld deals with 3 insurance carriers and paid with certificates until the end of 2011. After everyone has a chance to read this could you please remove your comment about Speedworld as it spreads rumors that get out of proportion and make for a false negative future.

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Originally Posted by aspen7709

I have not heard anything. I do a signifigant amount of advertising with Firebird and I know that it is solvent as far as i can tell you. Yes the indians want to build another casino but it would not benefit them as it would be too close to wild horse pass. Speedworld on the other hand is on the ropes as far as insurance goes. Look at the facility there. I have heard that it will be up for insurance renewal and it does not look good. Right now our most promising track is tucson and its IHRA now. Anyone wanna open up Beeline???

Kenny Newsome 7709 ?/sa

mopacltd · 02-19-2011, 03:08 PM

3 Insurance Companies?

02-16-2011, 05:12 PM	#1
Mark Yacavone Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Miles From Nowhere Posts: 7,418 Likes: 2,582 Liked 4,453 Times in 1,694 Posts	Firebird Raceway....Future?? I heard some rather disturbing news today about one of our local drag strips. Rather than spreading unsubstantiated rumors ,I figure I'll let someone else do it. What ya got?? __________________ We are lucky we don't get as much Government as we pay for..... Will Rogers

02-16-2011, 06:22 PM	#2
Andys dad VIP Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Arcadia, Ca Posts: 1,571 Likes: 48 Liked 175 Times in 78 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? The Indians want to build another Casino The track attendence does not support a National event anyway I heard this a year ago __________________ time is our most precious resource, you can always make more money but you can never make more time spend your time wisely with the ones you love - Ron Durham

02-16-2011, 09:12 PM	#3
Belair 7548 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Tempe, Arizona Posts: 75 Likes: 3 Liked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? Noooooooooo........but I guess one has to be racing for it to really matter............been parked due to the downturn..........maybe I should take up poker.........hummm might pay better than racing anyway.........and that's not saying much. Say it isn't so..................someone __________________ Brad Vokes SS 7548

02-16-2011, 10:22 PM	#4
aspen7709 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: sunny,az Posts: 165 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? I have not heard anything. I do a signifigant amount of advertising with Firebird and I know that it is solvent as far as i can tell you. Yes the indians want to build another casino but it would not benefit them as it would be too close to wild horse pass. Speedworld on the other hand is on the ropes as far as insurance goes. Look at the facility there. I have heard that it will be up for insurance renewal and it does not look good. Right now our most promising track is tucson and its IHRA now. Anyone wanna open up Beeline??? Kenny Newsome 7709 ?/sa

02-17-2011, 12:57 PM	#6
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? First, there is so much open Indian land around Firebird and Casino why would you tear up the dragstrip to put in another Casino? Down the pike a short distance in Casa Grande is also a Casino. Can the area support another one?? I don't know. Speedworld is a nice local track but, it is nowhere the size of Firebird. And I think couldn't support a national event just from a size perspective. As far as I know, Bee Line Dragway still exists, let the excavating begin!!! __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

02-18-2011, 12:43 AM	#7
MattConte Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Phoenix, Az. Posts: 71 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? Beeline is still there. The tower still stands. but everything is so far gone. It is also on Indian Rez I believe. Plus the top end of the track has been taken up with a small RV park and Skeet shooting range. That will SUCK if we loose Firebird. I am heading out tomorrow for the Div.7 Opener. That is just about my favorite event of the year. I missed it last year because I had a blow out on my truck on the way out there. I had better enjoy it allot then. Might be the last time. Speedworld is so cool because of it's size. It is an old track built in the 60s and it has not changed much over the years. It shut down once in the late 70s then reopened in 1988. It was Phoenix Raceway Park. I think that it might have a problem with the insurance because of the close confines of the track. To me it is the greatest drag strip in the world. But It is very outdated. But that is what is so beautiful about it. I loved it when the Division 7 opener was held there. If we loose both of these race tracks. It is going to SUCK here. It will give me more incentive to move as I am planning on it.

02-18-2011, 01:39 PM	#8
njk53 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: East China, MI Posts: 504 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? It would really be a bummer if Firebird closed. I was really bummed out when they closed Manzanita Speedway. That place was there since the end of WWII. When you loose a track you almost will never get a replacement. There is a guy operating a Moto-Cross and sand drag facility on Ironwood south of the 60. I'm not sure but it might be Apache Junction. I wish he would put in a dragstrip. Plenty of space. Not sure if he is on Indian land though. __________________ Nelson Kowal Stock 345

02-19-2011, 03:08 PM	#10
mopacltd Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: yarnell,az Posts: 302 Likes: 286 Liked 117 Times in 41 Posts	Re: Firebird Raceway....Future?? 3 Insurance Companies?