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Re: Ol' Fart's Firebird Fantasy
Cut the axle tubes and widen them if that is the car you want to build.
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My Cougar has a 9" in it but I have had a mini spool in it for years. Moser said it would be plenty strong. When I recently changed gears, I got another one from Jegs. It had 4 hole's in it for use with the 4 spider diff's.
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I'm not that worried about the width. I don't think they are going to measure the width of the rear at a division race. Who'd care ? But I'd like to find an 8.5 that will bolt right in, which has the factory bolt-in axles. That way, I can just buy a decent posi and gears, then race it. We've never broke a stock axle. But if I break one of these, then I'll buy some better ones.
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Original rear end may be replaced with another from the same automobile manufacturer; truck rear end prohibited. Aluminum center section permitted only on vehicles that were originally equipped with same." Distance between backing plates may not be changed." Any gear ratio that fits third-member case or housing permitted. Limited-slip or ratchet-type rear ends permitted. Reinforcement of spring perch permitted. Spools permitted only with aftermarket axles. Aftermarket axles not required for front-wheel-drive vehicles. Larger brakes may be used." Replacement rear end may be narrowed or widened to obtain original rear-end width." Bracing or beefing up the rearend housing permitted.
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I really can't imagine shearing a pin with a slow footbraker. We made hundreds(or maybe well over a thousand--didn't keep track) of passes with our 455 bracket cars, using mini spools, without braking any part of the rear. But, Tony said he's seen the carrier cracked, when using a mini. Don't know if your 9" carrier is thicker and less prone to cracking or not. |
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Again, that's just country boy thinkin. I've never raced a Stocker at the division level. But I've recently read that unless you set a National record, there are no tear downs. So, I reason that if no tear downs, certainly they wouldn't care if your rear end was a couple of inches too short. Is that a reasonable assumption ? |
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Is that accurate ? I have a question for you. I've read about the acid ported heads, and the new process that the top name Stocker head shops use to open up the Stock heads for the high dollar Stock racers. I read that many of the quickest cars use these heads and get by with it. So do you consider these heads illegal, even tho the tech guys pass 'em ? Do you think it's fair for guys running these heads to win their class at a National event, or set a National record, or win any of the big races ? Do you think it would be worse for me to run a rear that was a couple of inches too short, in order to save some $, than for these guys to win with modified heads ? If you were racing at the same race I was, would you protest my car or tell one of the tech guys that my rear end was 2 inches too short, and suggest that they measure it to see ? I personally would not care what rear end you had, or how wide the housing was. It would be fine with me if you wanted to run a 9" Ford or a Dana 60. Hey, if I understand the rules correctly, except for heads up runs, both Stock and SS now run breakout bracket rules. So what difference does it make how wide your rear end housing is ? You think that might be the reason the tech is a little slack at division level races ? Which item has a performance advantage ?-- the bogus heads or the shorter rear end housing ? If I go to the expense of having a stock housing lengthened 2 inches, and buying new axles to match, how much slower will I go ? I |
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So what I am hearing is that since others cheat, then it's permissable for you too also? I understand what you are saying about it not being much of a performance advantage, but it's still against the rules. Why go into a build with the idea that you are going to start out being illegal?
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