horsepower welfare

[GTS340]

Originally Posted by Larry Hill

The " Private Lee " ran with a 440 and AVS carb in E/SA.

I'm not positive but I believe Charlie Smith ran a 1969 Dart with 440 with Steve Wann when it was 375hp.
Still don't know why 440 4bbl cast iron head has so much attention. What I see there are about 5 cars total. They surely don't dominate in B, C or D. The others are running Aluminum heads. Way out of my league to afford. personally I didn't want to have to run one with my 45lbs heavy weight break. It did seem foolish that aluminum head engine was getting a better break. has this combination received any extras over the years that I missed? I could use some. My 340 that is sitting on the engine stand is laughing at me.

[GTS340]

Oh yah and the one car I used to enjoy watching use all of the track. Ernst Topping C/S 440 Dart

[Rick Kolber]

Originally Posted by GTS340

Oh yah and the one car I used to enjoy watching use all of the track. Ernst Topping C/S 440 Dart

I'm pretty sure Toppings Dart was a 340. C/S and G/S do look similar...LOL!

[Paul Wong]

Originally Posted by Rick Kolber

I'm pretty sure Toppings Dart was a 340. C/S and G/S do look similar...LOL!

I can promise you Topping's Dart Convertible was a 440 for many years. It was changed to a 340 much later and remains a 340 the last I knew of it.

Look at Topping's Number in the picture 1440 racing GTS340 -- Paul Haszlauer's Aspen in the early 1980's/.

[Rick Kolber]

Originally Posted by Paul Wong

I can promise you Topping's Dart Convertible was a 440 for many years. It was changed to a 340 much later and remains a 340 the last I knew of it.

Look at Topping's Number in the picture 1440 racing GTS340 -- Paul Haszlauer's Aspen in the early 1980's/.

Sorry, I must stand corrected.. I only knew of the cars later history.. 50 lashes!

[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Rick Kolber

Sorry, I must stand corrected.. I only knew of the cars later history.. 50 lashes!

I was going to post the same thing last night Rick, must have been WAY before our time....I do know that Ernest sold the car to Jim Mango......One thing is for sure, I will NEVER dispute Paul Wong....what a great guy......

[Frank Castros]

Ernie worked as a machinist for Bill Ceralli Competition in beautiful Paterson NJ when Bill was our engine builder and also Jerry Stein's.
Ernie's Dart convertible was a C/S 440 4 speed for many years before giving in to a G/S 340.
Ernie is a very cool dude who was a very good friend at the time.

[GTS340]

Holy Cow!! and I thought the witness protection program was still in effect. That was my best friend Stephen McGrath who does or did IHRA driving my car. I had one heck of a time getting that car built. I thought when I started the car had to be original. So that is an original "L" code 1979 Aspen. Toppings car is still around. Don't know or remember the person's name. #1453 G/S. great picture. Thanks!

[SStockDart]

Originally Posted by GTS340

I'm not positive but I believe Charlie Smith ran a 1969 Dart with 440 with Steve Wann when it was 375hp.
Still don't know why 440 4bbl cast iron head has so much attention. What I see there are about 5 cars total. They surely don't dominate in B, C or D. The others are running Aluminum heads. Way out of my league to afford. personally I didn't want to have to run one with my 45lbs heavy weight break. It did seem foolish that aluminum head engine was getting a better break. has this combination received any extras over the years that I missed? I could use some. My 340 that is sitting on the engine stand is laughing at me.

Charlies car was a 1969 Dart with 440/375. He had to use a 906 style head in Stock. BTW he did set the B/SA record.
In my 1968 (or 69) we can use a different cast iron head in Super Stock that is not legal in stock.

[GTS340]

Originally Posted by SStockDart

Charlies car was a 1969 Dart with 440/375. He had to use a 906 style head in Stock. BTW he did set the B/SA record.
In my 1968 (or 69) we can use a different cast iron head in Super Stock that is not legal in stock.

Steve Wann is very gifted and has a few more resources than the average guy like myself. He usually sets the bench mark in every car he owns. I am using an older Steve Wann engine that Paul Wong let me borrow and Charlie's # 2 0r 3 906 heads.