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Old 03-30-2015, 09:18 AM   #21
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Here is a rule set that is already in place and working, so there are already cars to draw from. There is also a similar class for the Ford guys. Pick a crate engine for the Mopar guys, and then you have a HEADS UP class with the 3 major brands, and tear downs become a non-issue. Also eliminates the costs associated with experimenting with cams, valve jobs, ring packs, etc, etc, etc. Lots of cars that are gathering dust could easily be pulled out of retirement, and with an engine swap, be racing. Rules could easily be adjusted to include SS type cars also, because at this hp level, there is no real advantage chassis wise.
While the NMRA and NMCA are fine small scale sanctioning bodies, I think a class like this would be a major deal if ran at NHRA/IHRA.


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Old 03-30-2015, 09:21 AM   #22
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And this is the Ford version


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Old 03-30-2015, 10:34 AM   #23
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something is coming
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Old 03-30-2015, 11:14 AM   #24
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With the improvments seen in converter techknowledgy and what is being done with transmissions. I do not belive that automatics should get the weight break. Today a pretty even deal, in my opinion.

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Old 03-30-2015, 11:38 AM   #25
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I don't know that I agree with that, especially on a lower hp deal. The auto still robs more hp than a stick.
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Old 03-30-2015, 04:17 PM   #26
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How about a combo that lets you run NHRA/IHRA and NMRA. With a tire change you could be racing anywhere and anytime. Builds the sport. Gives older cars an opportunity to run. Win Win.
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:01 PM   #27
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I thought that's what I proposed above? Granted, there is not a place for the older engines, but the older cars can race. Problem with older style engines is that it is going to be impossible to get the factory involvement the new engines have. Plus, if you don't do a sealed engine, sealed tune, (once again, much easier to do and monitor with computer), then you start back getting into the "trick of the week" club, where lots of money is spent testing and trying new parts. Pretty soon, the low dollar guy gives up on a "heads up class", and goes back to bracket racing.
The only reason I can think of that someone would bracket race over heads up racing is that they don't have either the time, know how, commitment, or money it takes to field a competitive heads up car, (or any combo of the above). The classes I proposed eliminates the majority of excuses.
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:25 PM   #28
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Professor Dave hit the nail right on the head.
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:32 PM   #29
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Which post was that?
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Old 03-30-2015, 05:43 PM   #30
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Post #19, Dave Ring.

You guys are all ignoring the elephant in the room. That being the almightly dollar. I don't care what rules, what safeguards, whatever you propose, if it's a heads-up eliminator, you're going to be out-dollared - period. The person with the most money wins. Always has been, always will be. Do you think that the system of indexes and AHFS appeared out of thin air? It has been a slow, concerted effort to keep the playing field level. It isn't always perfect but it's the best system going.

This horse (new heads-up eliminator) has been beaten to death so many times I can't count them all.
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