Cryogenic treatment of components

nhramnl · 02-18-2014, 03:06 PM

Who has tried it on things like a cast crank, valve springs, pistons, etc. and did it actually increase the durability of the component(s)? Thinking about having it done to a cast crank in a Super Stock motor. Thanks.

Jeff Stout · 02-18-2014, 04:47 PM

Did this on valve springs for BBC.They lasted twice as long. Also did brake rotors and being a heavy car with thin rotors they lasted a lot longer before warping.

Chuck Garey · 02-18-2014, 05:10 PM

Contact company called 300 below we have done some equipment for cranes with this process.

John Musial · 02-18-2014, 05:42 PM

Give these guys a call they will help you out. http://www.finishedracing.com/

Myron Piatek · 02-18-2014, 06:36 PM

I've had Evans Performance do a couple of ring & pinions for me so far. But they do everything else as well.

http://www.evansperformance.com/home2.html

Dave Crysler · 02-18-2014, 06:50 PM

Michaels Racing Engines in Macedonia Ohio does this in house, had solid cam, lifters and valve springs, springs lasted 400 runs, 9566 Bedford Road, Macedonia, Ohio 44056 330-467-1661

Dave Crysler · 02-19-2014, 07:15 AM

An amendment to the above post, the valve springs lasted 400 runs, cam and lifters are still in motor today, they were treated on 2004. Michaels told me they treated their tool steel used for cutting tools and the cutting tools lasted 4 times longer, also told me they built a top sportsman style motor for a customer, after 9 dyno pulls some of the valve springs needed replaced, at that point they put a set of treated springs on the motor and it made 40 quarter mile pass's before springs started showing signs of fatigue. Michaels also stated Nascar uses this process on many pieces including road coarse transmissions. Without treating the transmissions pieces they were either worn out or broken, after treatment minimal wear was much more common. hope this helps, hi John Musial, dave crysler

RJ Sledge · 02-19-2014, 02:03 PM

Cen-Tex Cryogenics Waco Texas. Roger Grimes retired AF does a very nice job, takes care of you parts, and is less costly than some others.

I do a lot of it and IMO it works well, started doing the cast iron rockers (FE) after breaking too many, have never broken another one. I do heads, blocks, cranks, rods, all bearings and smaller parts.

RJ

Ed Wright · 02-19-2014, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RJ Sledge

Cen-Tex Cryogenics Waco Texas. Roger Grimes retired AF does a very nice job, takes care of you parts, and is less costly than some others.

I do a lot of it and IMO it works well, started doing the cast iron rockers (FE) after breaking too many, have never broken another one. I do heads, blocks, cranks, rods, all bearings and smaller parts.

RJ

RJ, your a crafty dude. I never heard, or thought of, doing heads & blocks.

nhramnl · 02-19-2014, 02:29 PM

Sincere thanks to everybody who replied. I've read a lot about it and it sure seems like it would help, but I've learned that lots of times, what works in theory doesn't really work in practice. Thanks again, guys.

02-18-2014, 03:06 PM	#1
nhramnl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 504 Likes: 7 Liked 352 Times in 82 Posts	Cryogenic treatment of components Who has tried it on things like a cast crank, valve springs, pistons, etc. and did it actually increase the durability of the component(s)? Thinking about having it done to a cast crank in a Super Stock motor. Thanks.

02-18-2014, 04:47 PM	#2
Jeff Stout VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: phoenix Posts: 1,421 Likes: 53 Liked 664 Times in 261 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components Did this on valve springs for BBC.They lasted twice as long. Also did brake rotors and being a heavy car with thin rotors they lasted a lot longer before warping.

02-18-2014, 05:10 PM	#3
Chuck Garey Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 171 Likes: 0 Liked 10 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components Contact company called 300 below we have done some equipment for cranes with this process.

02-18-2014, 05:42 PM	#4
John Musial Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Comfort Texas Posts: 92 Likes: 65 Liked 51 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components Give these guys a call they will help you out. http://www.finishedracing.com/

02-18-2014, 06:36 PM	#5
Myron Piatek VIP Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,539 Likes: 34 Liked 135 Times in 49 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components I've had Evans Performance do a couple of ring & pinions for me so far. But they do everything else as well. http://www.evansperformance.com/home2.html __________________ LOCOMOTION Racing

02-18-2014, 06:50 PM	#6
Dave Crysler Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 120 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components Michaels Racing Engines in Macedonia Ohio does this in house, had solid cam, lifters and valve springs, springs lasted 400 runs, 9566 Bedford Road, Macedonia, Ohio 44056 330-467-1661

02-19-2014, 07:15 AM	#7
Dave Crysler Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 120 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components An amendment to the above post, the valve springs lasted 400 runs, cam and lifters are still in motor today, they were treated on 2004. Michaels told me they treated their tool steel used for cutting tools and the cutting tools lasted 4 times longer, also told me they built a top sportsman style motor for a customer, after 9 dyno pulls some of the valve springs needed replaced, at that point they put a set of treated springs on the motor and it made 40 quarter mile pass's before springs started showing signs of fatigue. Michaels also stated Nascar uses this process on many pieces including road coarse transmissions. Without treating the transmissions pieces they were either worn out or broken, after treatment minimal wear was much more common. hope this helps, hi John Musial, dave crysler

02-19-2014, 02:03 PM	#8
RJ Sledge Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 758 Likes: 381 Liked 258 Times in 83 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components Cen-Tex Cryogenics Waco Texas. Roger Grimes retired AF does a very nice job, takes care of you parts, and is less costly than some others. I do a lot of it and IMO it works well, started doing the cast iron rockers (FE) after breaking too many, have never broken another one. I do heads, blocks, cranks, rods, all bearings and smaller parts. RJ

02-19-2014, 02:29 PM	#10
nhramnl Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 504 Likes: 7 Liked 352 Times in 82 Posts	Re: Cryogenic treatment of components Sincere thanks to everybody who replied. I've read a lot about it and it sure seems like it would help, but I've learned that lots of times, what works in theory doesn't really work in practice. Thanks again, guys.