Competition Number Size

Mike Delahanty · 06-30-2015, 05:53 PM

I’m surprised that nobody has posted yet on this weeks NHRA Racer Update on Competition Numbers. No comments – questions, hate or rants. So let’s see what we can get going here.

I’ve watched with interest as the size and general visibility of Comp Numbers has gotten smaller and smaller over the years. And we have all seen examples of “wow that’s hard to read” Comp Numbers because of the size or color. And I just figured the staff in the towers must be using binoculars. I even down sized mine last year figuring smaller was OK.

But based on this NHRA communication it isn’t OK. Has anybody been warned on this? Anybody plan to change?

And Travis, how about an opinion on what we may expect in the Tech lines.

Keith 944 · 06-30-2015, 07:00 PM

A friend of mine was made to replace his at the Epping national. His was very legible but a little small on the front windscreen. Absolutely had nothing to do with the fans as stated in the tech article, they don't watch us anyway, lol

denbreeden · 06-30-2015, 07:35 PM

The newer cars have smaller side windows, with 6" tall letters it makes it hard to see the guy you are racing. If you run a new FSS/GT class and put those numbers by your 6" tall car number you pretty much fill up the available space.

Dennis Breeden

MR DERBY CITY · 06-30-2015, 08:02 PM

What fans ?....LOL !!..My close friend Bill Rink told me over twenty years ago....You know MJ, the only people that care about this Superstock/ Stock stuff is US....Bill is usually Spot On.....M.J.

HR9121 · 06-30-2015, 08:34 PM

I'm pretty sure Beard is behind this, trying to stir up some business lol! I don't recall the last time I saw any 6" letters.
I'll be shooting you an email in the next few days on what I need Michael!

FireSale · 06-30-2015, 08:37 PM

Just checked that as it's on my short list. 6 inches high and 1.5 inches wide minimum. Going to get crowded on the side window on my 68 coup. Can the numbers be on the B pillar? The one behind the window?

I'd place the blame for this on Michael Beard and his $100 name and number package. I've seen his Flaming Numbers special on bracket cars and S/ST. Just kidding, but I think some people get a bit too artsy with numbers.

As for no one paying attention, I rely on window numbers to identify and properly credit racers when I take my camera out to the drags. That and the entry list that I usually steal...

Then there's people like Jody Lang who lets his girl friend drive his super stocker and has the tower playing "Who's in that car?" when he's standing next to it.

Dale

brent flynn · 06-30-2015, 10:11 PM

So, my stuff isnt acceptable, anymore?

Congrats, Mike, on your Norwalk victory, btw...

Cdncarnut · 07-01-2015, 08:03 AM

The size of the Competition Numbers and Class decals are specified in the NHRA rule book.
I was able to get the 6" Competition Number, 3" Class and 1 1/2" name on my door glass with no issues.
I was not aware that this rule was not enforced, as I had some issues with the sign shop getting the size and quantity correct.

Mickey Whaley · 07-01-2015, 08:33 AM

Whats next the muffler rule being reinstated

Michael Beard · 07-01-2015, 08:51 AM

It's not me. I'm weeks behind as it is.

Incised is a popular block font. At 6" tall, it comes out 25.5" wide. Think about that! If there is an issue with a particular driver's decals, then take it up with that driver. I design decals to be clear and legible. Common sense is dead.

06-30-2015, 05:53 PM	#1
Mike Delahanty VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,180 Likes: 0 Liked 226 Times in 37 Posts	Competition Number Size I’m surprised that nobody has posted yet on this weeks NHRA Racer Update on Competition Numbers. No comments – questions, hate or rants. So let’s see what we can get going here. I’ve watched with interest as the size and general visibility of Comp Numbers has gotten smaller and smaller over the years. And we have all seen examples of “wow that’s hard to read” Comp Numbers because of the size or color. And I just figured the staff in the towers must be using binoculars. I even down sized mine last year figuring smaller was OK. But based on this NHRA communication it isn’t OK. Has anybody been warned on this? Anybody plan to change? And Travis, how about an opinion on what we may expect in the Tech lines. __________________ Been racing Stock and S/S cars since 1973.

06-30-2015, 07:00 PM	#2
Keith 944 VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Dela-where? Posts: 2,116 Likes: 1,004 Liked 1,649 Times in 521 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size A friend of mine was made to replace his at the Epping national. His was very legible but a little small on the front windscreen. Absolutely had nothing to do with the fans as stated in the tech article, they don't watch us anyway, lol __________________ KEITH MAYERS 2 X somebody many X nobody Last edited by Keith 944; 06-30-2015 at 10:10 PM.

06-30-2015, 07:35 PM	#3
denbreeden Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Plainville, IN Posts: 515 Likes: 159 Liked 77 Times in 34 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size The newer cars have smaller side windows, with 6" tall letters it makes it hard to see the guy you are racing. If you run a new FSS/GT class and put those numbers by your 6" tall car number you pretty much fill up the available space. Dennis Breeden

06-30-2015, 08:02 PM	#4
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,327 Likes: 858 Liked 6,611 Times in 1,289 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size What fans ?....LOL !!..My close friend Bill Rink told me over twenty years ago....You know MJ, the only people that care about this Superstock/ Stock stuff is US....Bill is usually Spot On.....M.J.

06-30-2015, 08:34 PM	#5
HR9121 Live Reporter Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: New Bern, NC Posts: 3,352 Likes: 112 Liked 2,866 Times in 640 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size I'm pretty sure Beard is behind this, trying to stir up some business lol! I don't recall the last time I saw any 6" letters. I'll be shooting you an email in the next few days on what I need Michael! __________________ James Williamson W200 J/SA Last edited by HR9121; 06-30-2015 at 08:37 PM.

06-30-2015, 08:37 PM	#6
FireSale VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Lakewood Washington Posts: 1,407 Likes: 29 Liked 236 Times in 127 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size Just checked that as it's on my short list. 6 inches high and 1.5 inches wide minimum. Going to get crowded on the side window on my 68 coup. Can the numbers be on the B pillar? The one behind the window? I'd place the blame for this on Michael Beard and his $100 name and number package. I've seen his Flaming Numbers special on bracket cars and S/ST. Just kidding, but I think some people get a bit too artsy with numbers. As for no one paying attention, I rely on window numbers to identify and properly credit racers when I take my camera out to the drags. That and the entry list that I usually steal... Then there's people like Jody Lang who lets his girl friend drive his super stocker and has the tower playing "Who's in that car?" when he's standing next to it. Dale __________________ Dale Shearon 68 Mustang 6394

06-30-2015, 10:11 PM	#7
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size So, my stuff isnt acceptable, anymore? Congrats, Mike, on your Norwalk victory, btw... __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

07-01-2015, 08:03 AM	#8
Cdncarnut Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 200 Likes: 307 Liked 44 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size The size of the Competition Numbers and Class decals are specified in the NHRA rule book. I was able to get the 6" Competition Number, 3" Class and 1 1/2" name on my door glass with no issues. I was not aware that this rule was not enforced, as I had some issues with the sign shop getting the size and quantity correct. __________________ Thomas NHRA 1959 E/SA

07-01-2015, 08:33 AM	#9
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Competition Number Size Whats next the muffler rule being reinstated

07-01-2015, 08:51 AM	#10
Michael Beard VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 4,060 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Competition Number Size It's not me. I'm weeks behind as it is. Incised is a popular block font. At 6" tall, it comes out 25.5" wide. Think about that! If there is an issue with a particular driver's decals, then take it up with that driver. I design decals to be clear and legible. Common sense is dead. __________________ Michael Beard - NHRA/IHRA 3216 S/SS