horsepower welfare - Page 3

GUMP · 01-08-2018, 06:58 PM

Wouldn't it be a no brainer to roll the two together once the stock head HP meets or passes the replacement head HP?

Billy Nees · 01-08-2018, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GUMP

Wouldn't it be a no brainer to roll the two together once the stock head HP meets or passes the replacement head HP?

And being a "no Brainer", the people doing this stuff should qualify for the job.

Mark, I just haven't figured out yet whether we're heading towards ET-2 or personal indexes.

X-TECH MAN · 01-08-2018, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

Mark, I just haven't figured out yet whether we're heading towards ET-2 or personal indexes.

Maybe in a year or two it will be like the NMCA national muscle car classes for stockers and the N/SS classes for S/S where they just have to look legal (kind of) with the 1/4 second spreads per class already listed. Car to slow on a particular weekend....just pick another et break and change the letter on the windows. That's how brackets started at Aquasco, Capitol, and other D,C area drag strips back before 1966. No tech except looks ?????? Its almost there now.

tpoh815 · 01-09-2018, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Billy Nees

. NOW, somewhere along the line, the replacement head becomes it's OWN combo. THAT'S B.S.!
If the NHRA is going to do it that way then maybe they should consider a combo with a replacement intake manifold a different combo too!

By the sound of this, it's like IHRA was ahead of the times! Get what you can-muster and get it approved.

Super Sport · 01-09-2018, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Maybe in a year or two it will be like the NMCA national muscle car classes for stockers and the N/SS classes for S/S where they just have to look legal (kind of) with the 1/4 second spreads per class already listed. Car to slow on a particular weekend....just pick another et break and change the letter on the windows. That's how brackets started at Aquasco, Capitol, and other D,C area drag strips back before 1966. No tech except looks ?????? Its almost there now.

The brass in Glendora are probably waiting for the very few S/SS techmen that are left to retire. Then they can adopt the NMCA program and save money in the tech dept. Keep up the complaining and it may happen sooner than expected.

Coleydog · 01-09-2018, 01:46 PM

Just like out west around 1900, cowboys sitting on their horses watching this 4 wheel noisy contraption riding around town saying to themselves that this thing will not last, it's just a fad, a new thing.
What I'm saying this is the future. NHRA already sees S/S and Stock as a waste of money, time and manpower, heck they're having a hard time keeping the "pro" classes together and these S/S-Ss are the low man on the pole. Worst case, I see NHRA rolling over like the other guys(AHRA-IHRA) where are you gonna race then? A Similar situation happened here last week. Local bowling alley closed doors with two days noticed, sold the building, all those leagues out in the cold nowhere to go, done. It's all about the bottom line. I'd love to see it stay the same as before but like Brad Pitt said, nothing lasts!
These people will make it easier and if that means no tech and stretched rules then that's what they'll do to stay alive.
IMO
Mike

X-TECH MAN · 01-09-2018, 02:17 PM

My thoughts and opinions
Local Stock and S/S Associations will be around maybe longer and the NMCA seems to be gaining popularity though they have a lot of weird classes now. They will run out of time to run a show and time trials. They will keep only those classes that bring in any spectators and a larger car count. I give it a few years.....but not many.

X-TECH MAN · 01-09-2018, 02:53 PM

[QUOTE=X-TECH MAN;553321]My thoughts and opinions
Local Stock and S/S Associations will be around maybe longer and the NMCA seems to be gaining popularity though they have a lot of weird classes now. They will run out of time to run a show and time trials. They will keep only those classes that bring in any spectators and a larger car count. I give it a few years.....but not many.

X-TECH MAN · 01-09-2018, 02:58 PM

Sorry for the double post.

Billy Nees · 01-09-2018, 07:12 PM

Ya know, in my lifetime, I've Class Raced (Stock and SS), I've Index Raced and I've Bracket Raced. I've been reasonably successful at all of them. I have said this on this web site more than once, Dear NHRA, if you don't want me doing this stuff anymore (Stock Eliminator Racing) then PLEASE let me know and I won't do it anymore. I'm absolutely positive that I can find someone else to give my hard earned money to.

01-08-2018, 06:58 PM	#21
GUMP VIP Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Shelby, NC Posts: 1,665 Likes: 1,709 Liked 1,732 Times in 418 Posts	Re: horsepower welfare Wouldn't it be a no brainer to roll the two together once the stock head HP meets or passes the replacement head HP?

01-09-2018, 01:46 PM	#26
Coleydog Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Posts: 561 Likes: 33 Liked 47 Times in 32 Posts	Re: horsepower welfare Just like out west around 1900, cowboys sitting on their horses watching this 4 wheel noisy contraption riding around town saying to themselves that this thing will not last, it's just a fad, a new thing. What I'm saying this is the future. NHRA already sees S/S and Stock as a waste of money, time and manpower, heck they're having a hard time keeping the "pro" classes together and these S/S-Ss are the low man on the pole. Worst case, I see NHRA rolling over like the other guys(AHRA-IHRA) where are you gonna race then? A Similar situation happened here last week. Local bowling alley closed doors with two days noticed, sold the building, all those leagues out in the cold nowhere to go, done. It's all about the bottom line. I'd love to see it stay the same as before but like Brad Pitt said, nothing lasts! These people will make it easier and if that means no tech and stretched rules then that's what they'll do to stay alive. IMO Mike

01-09-2018, 02:17 PM	#27
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: horsepower welfare My thoughts and opinions Local Stock and S/S Associations will be around maybe longer and the NMCA seems to be gaining popularity though they have a lot of weird classes now. They will run out of time to run a show and time trials. They will keep only those classes that bring in any spectators and a larger car count. I give it a few years.....but not many. Last edited by X-TECH MAN; 01-09-2018 at 02:55 PM.

01-09-2018, 02:53 PM	#28
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: horsepower welfare [QUOTE=X-TECH MAN;553321]My thoughts and opinions Local Stock and S/S Associations will be around maybe longer and the NMCA seems to be gaining popularity though they have a lot of weird classes now. They will run out of time to run a show and time trials. They will keep only those classes that bring in any spectators and a larger car count. I give it a few years.....but not many.

01-09-2018, 02:58 PM	#29
X-TECH MAN Banned Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 3,207 Likes: 1,049 Liked 235 Times in 110 Posts	Re: horsepower welfare Sorry for the double post.

01-09-2018, 07:12 PM	#30
Billy Nees VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: On a hilltop in Pa. Posts: 4,223 Likes: 3,100 Liked 6,789 Times in 1,524 Posts	Re: horsepower welfare Ya know, in my lifetime, I've Class Raced (Stock and SS), I've Index Raced and I've Bracket Raced. I've been reasonably successful at all of them. I have said this on this web site more than once, Dear NHRA, if you don't want me doing this stuff anymore (Stock Eliminator Racing) then PLEASE let me know and I won't do it anymore. I'm absolutely positive that I can find someone else to give my hard earned money to. __________________ Billy Nees 1188 STK, SS World's greatest Under-Achiever!