Update E-F/SA Bird Build... - Page 8

fred goodwin · 04-12-2014, 08:16 PM

I waited till 8:00 figuring you updated us with the numbers by now.

HandOverFist · 04-12-2014, 10:38 PM

I had good weather as well Brent but results went to hell for me...convertor is junk.

brent flynn · 04-13-2014, 09:33 AM

Well, folks... had some problems yesterday... floated valves just before the 1/8...shifted at 5700, and track wasnt hooking...i believe i was loosing atleast .04-.05 in 60ft...car was real soft on launch...i felt the spin, but it was a gradual dig, all the way through low gear... So , i may have tagged a valve, not major damage. Will leak it tomorrow, and go from there. Will have new cam ground and go to limited travel lifters, if i find out that this is the problem. Im hoping i sucked dirt into the carb, after i did all the new fuel system work...

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HandOverFist · 04-13-2014, 09:49 AM

Aint this fun Brent?

I'm off to the shop in a few to pull the transmission...again. Sometime soon we will both have some good news to report.

brent flynn · 04-13-2014, 10:01 AM

Sorry bout your converter... yea this is a blast! hehe

Kegracing · 04-13-2014, 11:35 AM

Congrats Brent!
Sorry test did not go as well as planned, but you have a legal motor in the car, and at the track! Ton of hard work (and money lol) starting to pay off.

I will just keep watching and stay jealous! Maybe I will have the pile of parts put together one of these days for my 67 bird. Between weather and work, and son's Jr dragster, I have not even had my car out with the IHRA crate motor, let alone any work on the 400.

Good luck!
Ken

Stock 412
67 Firebird Convertible G/CM

Dave Ribeiro · 04-13-2014, 03:22 PM

Brent,

Sorry , to hear about your problems ... Take the time to re-check everything you can while you are down !!!! Valve springs, rockers, timing, carb, etc . Use the carb off your other car, go with parts you know already work ??? Then
change them back one at a time ? If you dinged a valve you would have some kind of miss, so keep looking ? Valve springs & Clearances are critical so keeping checking everything before you re-start ....Hang in there, you will be fine.... Good Luck

brent flynn · 04-13-2014, 04:10 PM

Hey Dave...yea.. not what i was hoping for...but, doubt there is much damage... I will leak down, also, check carb, to make sure i didnt suck up something, after all the fuel system work... i did flush it, but you never know. Would be great if its just in the fuel system... but i'm doubting that ... will know more soon as i check compression...i have to get leak down guage from my buddy, but i do have a real nice compression guage, and it should point to a problem, if its big enough.... oil pressure is good, no leaks in the engine, and it fires right up, but you can tell it has lost a cyiinder or its running so lean, that its missing... will keep you posted!

brent flynn · 04-13-2014, 05:21 PM

Well...found the problem(s)... #4 CYL is ZERO #s compression...tagged valve(s) for sure... so, taking heads off soon...getting different cam/lifters, and getting heads repaired and trying it again...hehe You cant tell that the car has any issues by lookin at this pic...hehe.
Probably gonna take awhile to get it fixed...im not giving up yet

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HandOverFist · 04-13-2014, 06:22 PM

Well, that blows...I won't whine anymore about my problems. No doubt you will get it squared away quickly.

04-12-2014, 08:16 PM	#71
fred goodwin Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: shopville kentucky Posts: 80 Likes: 162 Liked 33 Times in 10 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... I waited till 8:00 figuring you updated us with the numbers by now.

04-12-2014, 10:38 PM	#72
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... I had good weather as well Brent but results went to hell for me...convertor is junk. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-13-2014, 09:33 AM	#73
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Well, folks... had some problems yesterday... floated valves just before the 1/8...shifted at 5700, and track wasnt hooking...i believe i was loosing atleast .04-.05 in 60ft...car was real soft on launch...i felt the spin, but it was a gradual dig, all the way through low gear... So , i may have tagged a valve, not major damage. Will leak it tomorrow, and go from there. Will have new cam ground and go to limited travel lifters, if i find out that this is the problem. Im hoping i sucked dirt into the carb, after i did all the new fuel system work... __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

04-13-2014, 09:49 AM	#74
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Aint this fun Brent? I'm off to the shop in a few to pull the transmission...again. Sometime soon we will both have some good news to report. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-13-2014, 10:01 AM	#75
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Sorry bout your converter... yea this is a blast! hehe __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

04-13-2014, 11:35 AM	#76
Kegracing Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Red Oak, TX Posts: 441 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Congrats Brent! Sorry test did not go as well as planned, but you have a legal motor in the car, and at the track! Ton of hard work (and money lol) starting to pay off. I will just keep watching and stay jealous! Maybe I will have the pile of parts put together one of these days for my 67 bird. Between weather and work, and son's Jr dragster, I have not even had my car out with the IHRA crate motor, let alone any work on the 400. Good luck! Ken Stock 412 67 Firebird Convertible G/CM

04-13-2014, 03:22 PM	#77
Dave Ribeiro VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Williamsburg, Va.---USA Posts: 1,827 Likes: 1,612 Liked 56 Times in 27 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Brent, Sorry , to hear about your problems ... Take the time to re-check everything you can while you are down !!!! Valve springs, rockers, timing, carb, etc . Use the carb off your other car, go with parts you know already work ??? Then change them back one at a time ? If you dinged a valve you would have some kind of miss, so keep looking ? Valve springs & Clearances are critical so keeping checking everything before you re-start ....Hang in there, you will be fine.... Good Luck __________________ Dave Ribeiro 1033 STK

04-13-2014, 04:10 PM	#78
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Hey Dave...yea.. not what i was hoping for...but, doubt there is much damage... I will leak down, also, check carb, to make sure i didnt suck up something, after all the fuel system work... i did flush it, but you never know. Would be great if its just in the fuel system... but i'm doubting that ... will know more soon as i check compression...i have to get leak down guage from my buddy, but i do have a real nice compression guage, and it should point to a problem, if its big enough.... oil pressure is good, no leaks in the engine, and it fires right up, but you can tell it has lost a cyiinder or its running so lean, that its missing... will keep you posted! __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

04-13-2014, 05:21 PM	#79
brent flynn Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Middletown, IN Posts: 593 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Well...found the problem(s)... #4 CYL is ZERO #s compression...tagged valve(s) for sure... so, taking heads off soon...getting different cam/lifters, and getting heads repaired and trying it again...hehe You cant tell that the car has any issues by lookin at this pic...hehe. Probably gonna take awhile to get it fixed...im not giving up yet __________________ 1968 Bird/TRW 455/Home ported 13's, '70 Qjet,Holley Street Dominator manifold, Comp Solid FT, 10.817/122.30/1.440 Workin' on E/SA combo 3119 E/SA

04-13-2014, 06:22 PM	#80
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Update E-F/SA Bird Build... Well, that blows...I won't whine anymore about my problems. No doubt you will get it squared away quickly. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321