"Old School" Stocker Cams

[Frank Castros]

Thanks Hoven for your nice compliment. "This guy" thought you had more class than that, I guess I'm wrong on both counts.

Would it not be less expensive to run roller cams than a billet mechanical cam and unreliable lifters?

The Stock Eliminator rule book changed forever with the liberalizing of cam duration and valve springs.

You guys are already spending big money.

It's just food for thought.

[Frank Castros]

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[Dano]

Wait, Wait, Wait....

"Forum; a place, meeting, or medium where antiquiated
ideas and views on a particular issue can be exchanged, discussed and clinged to"

[427FE]

I can tell ya the High Riser FE's liked the Crane Z300 cam

[Race Clean]

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Would it not be less expensive to run roller cams than a billet mechanical cam and unreliable lifters.

This type of thinking is what’s killing the Stock Class IMHO
Stuff like trying to make stamped steel rockers work,finding ones with good enough ratios,making them live for example was very interesting from a enigineering stand point,just bolting in aftermarket rollers to make it easy and cheap for everyone is pointless in a Class like this to me
Opening my hood with Edelbrock heads and(intake) and showing my roller rockers when the covers are off just isn’t STOCK to me

[Frank Castros]

I'm a Stock Eliminator purist through and through and with the liberalization of the rules the past thirty years and we all know the clock will not be turned back or the changes rescinded.
If there can be mechanical lifters for everyone, why not rollers? I hate it and believe me I do, but it now makes sense to me from a cost standpoint.

[Michael K]

This might be a dumb question, but is there a performance advantage with a roller cam, or just a maintenance/reliability advantage? The roller meeting present stocker specs, of course.

[Todd Hoven]

Listen, it’s a bad idea. When guys are breaking flat tappets and other valvetrain parts it’s time to get help from someone who knows what they are doing, because they don’t . Or they need to ramp up their maintenance program. Changing the rules for racers that can’t build reliable engine is stupid. I’ve made about 200 runs with the Coronet. It has a flat tappet cam as per the rules, and we have never broken a valvetrain part during my time as the driver. It’s a Hemi in that with not the best valvetrain geometry. So there is a great example of when something is assembled with the right parts how good the reliability can be.

Not really worried about an internet discussion how I’m perceived about this. I think it’s a bad idea and I spoke up about it.

So you think just allowing roller lifters is going to make this a cheap sport and make everybody reliable? You don’t think anybody’s going to exploit that and make the engines run harder than they do right now with these new parts? Then we all have to buy a roller lifters and roller cam to keep up. Then we all have to buy roller lifters and roller cams to keep up. How many good Stock eliminator racers are looking for a roller lifters for their engine? More or less than 10? Wie will have 10,000 RPM 396s, then how much money are we going to spend to keep up with them? BTW, you can get quite a bit of performance out of lower valve spring pressures if the right parts are used.

Originally Posted by Frank Castros

Thanks Hoven for your nice compliment. "This guy" thought you had more class than that, I guess I'm wrong on both counts.


Would it not be less expensive to run roller cams than a billet mechanical cam and unreliable lifters?

The Stock Eliminator rule book changed forever with the liberalizing of cam duration and valve springs.

You guys are already spending big money.

It's just food for thought.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Alan Nyhus

Not even close.

After the valve spring rules were relaxed, stock rockers were mandated for several years. Finally allowing quality after market rocker arms was a common sense rule change.

So now we have Modified Stock....!
Roller Rockers, Mechanical Tappet or Roller Lifters, any Spring Rate,
There is Limited Lift but with unlimited Duration, MassagedHead$$$

More speed means more safety items....
Wheelie Bars, Roll Cages, gutted Interiors, Special Seats, Harnesses.
Beefed up Transmissions Parts, Custom Converters, Deeper gear sets, Micro Polishing, special gasoline. Then you need much better Brakes.

AND everyone tormented me because for pushing Pure Stock !!
That Class was fun and affordable.

[Dwight Southerland]

If the valve spring pressure were reduced, after a period of adjustment there would be no more carnage than allowing roller lifters and it would be a whole lot cheaper for the majority of racers.