Blinder/Blocker clarification needed

Brad Plourd · 02-04-2023, 06:32 PM

Today, I could clearly see a stock eliminator driver hold something up to block his opponents side of the tree. Is this legal or not?

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Todd Hoven · 02-04-2023, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brad Plourd

Today, I could clearly see a stock eliminator driver hold something up to block his opponents side of the tree. Is this legal or not?

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Looks like it’s legal if it’s not being corrected. Is there anything that says you can’t do this? Just windshields and helmet visors are the way the rule is written. Is this a problem if someone found another option? Or how are we as racers going to turn anyone in that attempts to find another way?
Is it about safety or racers getting the ear of the rule makers for personal agendas?

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Brad Plourd · 02-04-2023, 07:12 PM

That was my question Todd, and the point of this post.

Is it legal to hold a blocker?

Brett C · 02-04-2023, 07:14 PM

I say no.
No blinders should mean NO blinders.
But what do I know!?

Todd Hoven · 02-04-2023, 07:54 PM

This is the rule as written.

HELMET For all 10.00 and slower cars, either an open-face or a full-face Snell: M2015, M2020, SA2015, SA2020, FIA: 8860-2010,
8860-2015 or 8860-2018 helmet mandatory; shield permitted (goggles prohibited). Taping or similar modifications to the helmet or helmet shield that reduces the driver's field of vision prohibited. For all 9.99 and quicker cars, a full-face Snell:
M2015, M2020, SA2015, SA2020, FIA:
8860-2010, 8860-2015 or 8860-2018
helmet mandatory; shield permitted (goggles prohibited). Taping or similar modifications to the helmet or helmet shield that reduces the driver's field of vision prohibited. See General Regulations 10:7.

Just says about modification to the Helmet, visor and or , Windshield. Nothing about blocking or having to look at the full tree?
What is happening here is not using any of the above.
BTW I’m not a blocker, but I have no problem with someone who is long as he is safe and following the rules above.
I still think this rule has been mostly written because anti blockers have influenced a sympathetic person in power for their own benefit and agenda.

Brad Plourd · 02-04-2023, 07:59 PM

I actually agree with you that someone or some group lobbied for this.

rboyle · 02-04-2023, 08:48 PM

A handheld block may fall under unsecured ballast so be sure before you do so.

Todd Hoven · 02-04-2023, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rboyle

A handheld block may fall under unsecured ballast so be sure before you do so.

That’s a stretch. Could be a log book.

MR DERBY CITY · 02-05-2023, 09:57 AM

Since NHRA is so concerned with blockers and safety I will be holding a prayer card of St. Christopher in my right hand this upcoming season. As many know St. Christopher is the patron Saint of travel soooo I believe I will have all my bases covered. Never mind that it’s ALWAYS safer to have TWO hands on the steering wheel instead of ONE ….

bubski · 02-05-2023, 10:36 AM

This is the never ending story of TEARS !! What Bubski would like to propose is that some entrepreneur !! Come up with an SFI certified blinder like some of the other ridiculous must need in order to race items !! That way SFI and NHRA can cash in and make it a contingency item so you can get robbed of every last penny you make !! At least you'll have your blinder than !! Cheers !!

02-04-2023, 06:32 PM	#1
Brad Plourd Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 183 Likes: 22 Liked 56 Times in 18 Posts	Blinder/Blocker clarification needed Today, I could clearly see a stock eliminator driver hold something up to block his opponents side of the tree. Is this legal or not? 🤔 🤔 🤔

02-04-2023, 07:12 PM	#3
Brad Plourd Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 183 Likes: 22 Liked 56 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed That was my question Todd, and the point of this post. Is it legal to hold a blocker?

02-04-2023, 07:14 PM	#4
Brett C VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 1,164 Likes: 260 Liked 879 Times in 197 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed I say no. No blinders should mean NO blinders. But what do I know!? __________________ Brett Candies 4192 Stock/SS God Bless America

02-04-2023, 07:54 PM	#5
Todd Hoven VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,330 Likes: 889 Liked 720 Times in 151 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed This is the rule as written. HELMET For all 10.00 and slower cars, either an open-face or a full-face Snell: M2015, M2020, SA2015, SA2020, FIA: 8860-2010, 8860-2015 or 8860-2018 helmet mandatory; shield permitted (goggles prohibited). Taping or similar modifications to the helmet or helmet shield that reduces the driver's field of vision prohibited. For all 9.99 and quicker cars, a full-face Snell: M2015, M2020, SA2015, SA2020, FIA: 8860-2010, 8860-2015 or 8860-2018 helmet mandatory; shield permitted (goggles prohibited). Taping or similar modifications to the helmet or helmet shield that reduces the driver's field of vision prohibited. See General Regulations 10:7. Just says about modification to the Helmet, visor and or , Windshield. Nothing about blocking or having to look at the full tree? What is happening here is not using any of the above. BTW I’m not a blocker, but I have no problem with someone who is long as he is safe and following the rules above. I still think this rule has been mostly written because anti blockers have influenced a sympathetic person in power for their own benefit and agenda. __________________ Todd Hoven 1035 Stock

02-04-2023, 07:59 PM	#6
Brad Plourd Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 183 Likes: 22 Liked 56 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed I actually agree with you that someone or some group lobbied for this.

02-04-2023, 08:48 PM	#7
rboyle Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 586 Likes: 1,424 Liked 554 Times in 156 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed A handheld block may fall under unsecured ballast so be sure before you do so.

02-05-2023, 09:57 AM	#9
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,361 Likes: 906 Liked 6,754 Times in 1,316 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed Since NHRA is so concerned with blockers and safety I will be holding a prayer card of St. Christopher in my right hand this upcoming season. As many know St. Christopher is the patron Saint of travel soooo I believe I will have all my bases covered. Never mind that it’s ALWAYS safer to have TWO hands on the steering wheel instead of ONE …. Last edited by MR DERBY CITY; 02-05-2023 at 10:11 AM.

02-05-2023, 10:36 AM	#10
bubski Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 228 Likes: 14 Liked 186 Times in 63 Posts	Re: Blinder/Blocker clarification needed This is the never ending story of TEARS !! What Bubski would like to propose is that some entrepreneur !! Come up with an SFI certified blinder like some of the other ridiculous must need in order to race items !! That way SFI and NHRA can cash in and make it a contingency item so you can get robbed of every last penny you make !! At least you'll have your blinder than !! Cheers !!