Tru start poll Division 6 - Page 6

Spring Fling · 11-23-2016, 10:20 PM

The following tracks have added TruSTART for next year:

Summit Raceway Park
Firebird Raceway
SGMP
Tucson Dragway
LVMS
Orlando Speed World Dragway
Sonoma Raceway
Maple Grove
Bandimere Speedway

-Kyle
www.BracketRaces.com

shoebox racer · 11-23-2016, 11:28 PM

James, thank you for your efforts in this poll. I would like to cast three votes in favor of tru-start if the cost of the software is not passed on to the racers. If it is then we will make do with the "clean light" advantage. I know this is a hard to predict deal. Also thank you to Tommy and Larry for an honest answer of liking the advantage of having a faster car. We all know the rules going in to the race. Happy holidays to all!

6278 SS/P Mike Parmenter
6191 SS/NA Bill Parmenter
6776 D/SA Fadi Ateyeh

J DeForrest · 11-24-2016, 02:17 AM

I am sorry Peter and Kyle, but I disagree. However, in a delay box class where both cars are leaving on the same bulb, it makes sense. Everybody has their own opinion on slower cars vs faster cars having their advantages. But if everybody wants to make it "fair" with regards to the tree, I would like to know how you give both cars a clean tree without a delay box. I really hope this does not come to what is left of a performance based class.

Jason

Hacksaw · 11-24-2016, 09:40 AM

Organized drag racing is a performance based sport that thrives on the fact that we take "normal" cars and turn them into purpose built Hotrods. Everyone that races should understand that a quick/fast car takes considerably more money and effort to campaign. Now by changing the rules you are taking away a "benefit" given to the quicker car. This rule change will hasten the demise of class racing. Why? Because there is no incentive to have a quicker car. The future will show a group of 500 to 600 hp Super Stockers all running 9:50's to 10:50's. Leave True Start where it belongs, with the bracket racers.

HandOverFist · 11-24-2016, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Organized drag racing is a performance based sport that thrives on the fact that we take "normal" cars and turn them into purpose built Hotrods. Everyone that races should understand that a quick/fast car takes considerably more money and effort to campaign. Now by changing the rules you are taking away a "benefit" given to the quicker car. This rule change will hasten the demise of class racing. Why? Because there is no incentive to have a quicker car. The future will show a group of 500 to 600 hp Super Stockers all running 9:50's to 10:50's. Leave True Start where it belongs, with the bracket racers.

Don't follow your logic...how does one lose any "incentive" when Tru-Start was designed with handicap racing in mind? Are we not just "bracket racing" when not involved in a heads-up situation?

FireSale · 11-24-2016, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by shoebox racer

James, thank you for your efforts in this poll. I would like to cast three votes in favor of tru-start if the cost of the software is not passed on to the racers. If it is then we will make do with the "clean light" advantage. I know this is a hard to predict deal. Also thank you to Tommy and Larry for an honest answer of liking the advantage of having a faster car. We all know the rules going in to the race. Happy holidays to all!

6278 SS/P Mike Parmenter
6191 SS/NA Bill Parmenter
6776 D/SA Fadi Ateyeh

OOOOO That nasty black Mustang!
TruStart is a $2800 software upgrade to an existing Compulink timing system based on info from another forum thread. Not a huge expense.

Billy Nees · 11-24-2016, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Hacksaw

Everyone that races should understand that a quick/fast car takes considerably more money and effort to campaign.

Sooooo, what do you race? Your checkbook or your mouth?

Mickey Whaley · 11-24-2016, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by J DeForrest

I am sorry Peter and Kyle, but I disagree. However, in a delay box class where both cars are leaving on the same bulb, it makes sense. Everybody has their own opinion on slower cars vs faster cars having their advantages. But if everybody wants to make it "fair" with regards to the tree, I would like to know how you give both cars a clean tree without a delay box. I really hope this does not come to what is left of a performance based class.

Jason

X2 you got it!

Billy Nees · 11-24-2016, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by J DeForrest

But if everybody wants to make it "fair" with regards to the tree, I would like to know how you give both cars a clean tree without a delay box. I really hope this does not come to what is left of a performance based class.

Jason

So completely "blind" the tree! A 4x8 sheet of plywood should do the trick.
And maybe I'm dense or something but I just can't figure out how Tru-Start has anything to do with "what is left of a performance based class".

Mickey Whaley · 11-24-2016, 12:35 PM

I think we should cut off husan bolts foot off because he is the fastest one billy delay box guys set up 005 or better there are a lot of double reds there within 005 yes that would work bottom bulb not that tight so I still say no and I like pete and kyle but I can disagree with this rule!

e

11-23-2016, 10:20 PM	#51
Spring Fling Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 43 Likes: 0 Liked 12 Times in 6 Posts	Re: Tru start poll Division 6 The following tracks have added TruSTART for next year: Summit Raceway Park Firebird Raceway SGMP Tucson Dragway LVMS Orlando Speed World Dragway Sonoma Raceway Maple Grove Bandimere Speedway -Kyle www.BracketRaces.com

11-23-2016, 11:28 PM	#52
shoebox racer Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 10 Likes: 2 Liked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Tru start poll Division 6 James, thank you for your efforts in this poll. I would like to cast three votes in favor of tru-start if the cost of the software is not passed on to the racers. If it is then we will make do with the "clean light" advantage. I know this is a hard to predict deal. Also thank you to Tommy and Larry for an honest answer of liking the advantage of having a faster car. We all know the rules going in to the race. Happy holidays to all! 6278 SS/P Mike Parmenter 6191 SS/NA Bill Parmenter 6776 D/SA Fadi Ateyeh

11-24-2016, 02:17 AM	#53
J DeForrest Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Ramsey, MN Posts: 112 Likes: 85 Liked 74 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Tru start poll Division 6 I am sorry Peter and Kyle, but I disagree. However, in a delay box class where both cars are leaving on the same bulb, it makes sense. Everybody has their own opinion on slower cars vs faster cars having their advantages. But if everybody wants to make it "fair" with regards to the tree, I would like to know how you give both cars a clean tree without a delay box. I really hope this does not come to what is left of a performance based class. Jason __________________ superstock5150@gmail.com

11-24-2016, 09:40 AM	#54
Hacksaw Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 841 Likes: 150 Liked 277 Times in 152 Posts	Re: Tru start poll Division 6 Organized drag racing is a performance based sport that thrives on the fact that we take "normal" cars and turn them into purpose built Hotrods. Everyone that races should understand that a quick/fast car takes considerably more money and effort to campaign. Now by changing the rules you are taking away a "benefit" given to the quicker car. This rule change will hasten the demise of class racing. Why? Because there is no incentive to have a quicker car. The future will show a group of 500 to 600 hp Super Stockers all running 9:50's to 10:50's. Leave True Start where it belongs, with the bracket racers.

11-24-2016, 12:35 PM	#60
Mickey Whaley VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,220 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Tru start poll Division 6 I think we should cut off husan bolts foot off because he is the fastest one billy delay box guys set up 005 or better there are a lot of double reds there within 005 yes that would work bottom bulb not that tight so I still say no and I like pete and kyle but I can disagree with this rule! e