What Pro stock could and maybe should be.

Greg Hill · 11-18-2011, 05:05 PM

How about this? With Ford, Chrysler and GM all having new muscle cars how about Pro Stock being just those body styles with pretty much stock appearing bodies. For motors 358 inches with a spec blower. 10.5 tires and manual you gotta shift transmissions. How long before these cars would be as fast as the present pro stockers? The SS/A Mustangs are already close to the 7's at over 3200lbs. Make the min. weight around 2500 lbs. This should really get some interest from the manufacturers and the fans and maybe be affordable enough to attract a bunch more new teams. With identifiable bodies from the big three it should be great.

Dave Turner · 11-18-2011, 05:46 PM

I could become a fan again.....it's been a LONG time!

BlueOval Ralph · 11-18-2011, 05:53 PM

In today's economy how could you obsolete the investment today's Pro Stock teams have? How many of you guy's could/would step up to the plate? The only way NHRA would do this is if the factories pay for it!

Andys dad · 11-18-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

In today's economy how could you obsolete the investment today's Pro Stock teams have? How many of you guy's could/would step up to the plate? The only way NHRA would do this is if the factories pay for it!

In a few wordds remeber PST

Only thing wrong with the idea is it makes too much sense

:-) peace

X-TECH MAN · 11-18-2011, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueOval Ralph

In today's economy how could you obsolete the investment today's Pro Stock teams have? How many of you guy's could/would step up to the plate? The only way NHRA would do this is if the factories pay for it!

Who cares......Greg has a great idea. They already pizz away more money in the Pro "FUNNY" Cars than we could ever think about so what would be any different? It would save them money in the first season and more teams might jump in. Sell the junk they use now to Comp and T/S racers.

Kenny Wigington · 11-18-2011, 06:15 PM

Just might spark some real interest again ! Be a cool idea !

blkjack · 11-18-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

Who cares........Sell the junk they use now to Comp and T/S racers.

DId you ever notice how many Comp cars there aren't

And of them, most are small motors not 500cubers.. TS is >800 so.........................

Rob Petrie E395 · 11-18-2011, 07:13 PM

If the economy was good like it was years ago. And Big time big money sponserships were in good supply like it was not so long ago. I could agree about changing things in a major way. But they are not we would be asking teams with millions of dollars invested in the current rules package. To sell it for pennies on the dollar to start over with a new rules package. It would be like telling stock and super stock racers to sell your current car to a bracket racers for next to nothing and buy a Cobra Jet,Drag Pack or camaro to play the game or sit home. The ones who can afford it would. The ones who cant wont. In the end every one who is racing now that cant afford it is one more team who is out of the game and I doubt there will be enough new player to take thier place. And that will mean alot less cars out there running pro stock than there is now. Jeff Burk (Of DRO) started out wanting to get rid of the hood scoops and switch them to fuel injection. Now he wants to get rid of the current rules and move the import cars up and make them the new pro stock. I could go for a change to fuel injection but to drop everything and start over with a whole new rules package is a bad idea. I think in the end it will kill the class. Just look at Greg Stanfield he just won at Pomona in a car with a huge number of passes on it for a pro stock car. Does he run that car because there is some advantage to it. Hell no he does it because he could not afford a new car and he is not the only one working with a shoestring budget. I see every time there is a rule change in your classes there are people up in arms about it. Imagine if NHRA told you that you had to buy one of the new cars to play. Thats what you are asking for pro stock if this were done to them.

blkjack · 11-18-2011, 07:19 PM

With some minor rule changes...it should have reflected the short live AA/SM
ala Bo Butner. That chapter is closed.

Steve Williams · 11-18-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by X-TECH MAN

It would save them money in the first season and more teams might jump in. Sell the junk they use now to Comp and T/S racers.

You need to get that looked at. You bumped your head along the way somewhere. Save money? Selling everything for pennies on the dollar?. Sounds like a great idea....Where does the line start?

11-18-2011, 05:05 PM	#1
Greg Hill VIP Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Louisville , KY Posts: 1,994 Likes: 63 Liked 270 Times in 68 Posts	What Pro stock could and maybe should be. How about this? With Ford, Chrysler and GM all having new muscle cars how about Pro Stock being just those body styles with pretty much stock appearing bodies. For motors 358 inches with a spec blower. 10.5 tires and manual you gotta shift transmissions. How long before these cars would be as fast as the present pro stockers? The SS/A Mustangs are already close to the 7's at over 3200lbs. Make the min. weight around 2500 lbs. This should really get some interest from the manufacturers and the fans and maybe be affordable enough to attract a bunch more new teams. With identifiable bodies from the big three it should be great. __________________ Greg Hill 4171 STK

11-18-2011, 05:46 PM	#2
Dave Turner VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Schomberg, ON, Canada Posts: 1,215 Likes: 1,524 Liked 334 Times in 132 Posts	Re: What Pro stock could and maybe should be. I could become a fan again.....it's been a LONG time! __________________ Dave Turner #1153

11-18-2011, 05:53 PM	#3
BlueOval Ralph Banned Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 852 Likes: 0 Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: What Pro stock could and maybe should be. In today's economy how could you obsolete the investment today's Pro Stock teams have? How many of you guy's could/would step up to the plate? The only way NHRA would do this is if the factories pay for it!

11-18-2011, 06:15 PM	#6
Kenny Wigington Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Cumming,Ga. USA Posts: 967 Likes: 36 Liked 60 Times in 12 Posts	Re: What Pro stock could and maybe should be. Just might spark some real interest again ! Be a cool idea ! __________________ 2894 STK

11-18-2011, 07:13 PM	#8
Rob Petrie E395 VIP Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Woodlawn IL Posts: 1,093 Likes: 162 Liked 220 Times in 79 Posts	Re: What Pro stock could and maybe should be. If the economy was good like it was years ago. And Big time big money sponserships were in good supply like it was not so long ago. I could agree about changing things in a major way. But they are not we would be asking teams with millions of dollars invested in the current rules package. To sell it for pennies on the dollar to start over with a new rules package. It would be like telling stock and super stock racers to sell your current car to a bracket racers for next to nothing and buy a Cobra Jet,Drag Pack or camaro to play the game or sit home. The ones who can afford it would. The ones who cant wont. In the end every one who is racing now that cant afford it is one more team who is out of the game and I doubt there will be enough new player to take thier place. And that will mean alot less cars out there running pro stock than there is now. Jeff Burk (Of DRO) started out wanting to get rid of the hood scoops and switch them to fuel injection. Now he wants to get rid of the current rules and move the import cars up and make them the new pro stock. I could go for a change to fuel injection but to drop everything and start over with a whole new rules package is a bad idea. I think in the end it will kill the class. Just look at Greg Stanfield he just won at Pomona in a car with a huge number of passes on it for a pro stock car. Does he run that car because there is some advantage to it. Hell no he does it because he could not afford a new car and he is not the only one working with a shoestring budget. I see every time there is a rule change in your classes there are people up in arms about it. Imagine if NHRA told you that you had to buy one of the new cars to play. Thats what you are asking for pro stock if this were done to them.

11-18-2011, 07:19 PM	#9
blkjack Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Belle Vernon, PA Posts: 281 Likes: 25 Liked 51 Times in 16 Posts	Re: What Pro stock could and maybe should be. With some minor rule changes...it should have reflected the short live AA/SM ala Bo Butner. That chapter is closed.