HOME FORUM RULES SPONSORS CONTACT
     
   
   
Go Back   CLASS RACER FORUM > Class Racer Forums > Class Racer Builds

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-26-2020, 07:12 AM   #21
Robin Lawrence
Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Galesburg IL.
Posts: 34
Likes: 7
Liked 54 Times in 10 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

I just pulled up a HP Tuners file for that engine combination and body. the speed limiter is active at 106 MPH and turns back on at 104.

very basic ECU and should be very easy for you to come up to speed.

Most notable the Torque table limits in 4 gear. There are no COT or Cat Over Temp in this ECU.
Your rev limiter as 6500.
Could be a little in the shift scheduling also.
I have my own chassis dyno that I do some work on the side so I play with some of the late model flash ware like the HP Tuners.
Great project! Good luck.

Robin
__________________
I work at Holley
STK 308
Robin Lawrence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2020, 11:17 AM   #22
Mark Yacavone
Veteran Member
 
Mark Yacavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Miles From Nowhere
Posts: 5,510
Likes: 900
Liked 1,521 Times in 605 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Knox View Post
What about using an aftermarket computer? Is it hard to put in everything you need?
Marty, You've got to re-read the title of this thread . LOL
__________________
" C'mon man..."
Mark Yacavone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2020, 07:25 PM   #23
Marty Knox
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Freeland MI
Posts: 160
Likes: 138
Liked 14 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone View Post
Marty, You've got to re-read the title of this thread . LOL
Mark, I've never priced an aftermarket computer.
How much do they cost?
__________________
Marty Knox 3071 STK
Marty Knox is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2020, 07:53 PM   #24
Mark Yacavone
Veteran Member
 
Mark Yacavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Miles From Nowhere
Posts: 5,510
Likes: 900
Liked 1,521 Times in 605 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Marty Knox View Post
Mark, I've never priced an aftermarket computer.
How much do they cost?
I have no idea ;-)
__________________
" C'mon man..."
Mark Yacavone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-26-2020, 11:48 PM   #25
Mark Yacavone
Veteran Member
 
Mark Yacavone's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Miles From Nowhere
Posts: 5,510
Likes: 900
Liked 1,521 Times in 605 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Billy, That gas is kinda expensive for this program , isn't it?
Do you use it in anything else ? How much , per ?
__________________
" C'mon man..."
Mark Yacavone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2020, 06:33 AM   #26
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 2,905
Likes: 738
Liked 2,235 Times in 541 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone View Post
Billy, That gas is kinda expensive for this program , isn't it?
Do you use it in anything else ? How much , per ?
No, not at this time but I might try it in some other stuff. Depending on where you buy it, it's no more expensive than supreme.
I wanted something without a really high octane rating to start out with because I can't do anything about advancing the timing... yet.
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2020, 09:00 AM   #27
Robin Lawrence
Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Galesburg IL.
Posts: 34
Likes: 7
Liked 54 Times in 10 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone View Post
I have no idea ;-)
Well I have a little experience in this area. One option is what I mentioned earlier about a flashware product such as HP Tuners. Link to hardware. https://www.hptuners.com/mpvi2/
The hardware will set you back about 300 plus another 100 for the license to modify the file. Once that is done you can reflash or tune as many times as you wish. You will need a laptop computer also.

There are a ton of Stand Alone ECU's out there. Some are fairly powerful and others can be very simple. I can only speak for the Holley since it's what I do.
A Terminator X Holley (low cost system) can be had for about 1000 and includes the harness. Here is the issue, unless the 2.2 uses a common crank pattern like 4X on Crankshaft then you won't be able to trigger the ECU. As simple as your deal is I would work with the stock ECU. It is speed density and has a VE table. It's so very basic, just tune the VE table (fuel) and timing.

Robin
__________________
I work at Holley
STK 308
Robin Lawrence is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-27-2020, 11:04 AM   #28
Billy Nees
VIP Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: On a hilltop in Pa.
Posts: 2,905
Likes: 738
Liked 2,235 Times in 541 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

Thanks Robin for your input. HP Tuners is the way that I have been leaning since I started this project. When you're dealing with an nonredeemable vehicle, cheap is good.
__________________
Billy Nees 1188 STK
Billy Nees is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2020, 07:58 AM   #29
Signman
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 409
Likes: 6
Liked 33 Times in 19 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

This looks like great fun!
Love it!


There are plenty of cheap laptops out there. Check out Microcenter for refurbs. They usually have a few with small HD for 200-300 sometimes cheaper.

I have a good WIN XP laptop but think the HP Tuner Software wants a newer operating system. It's important to check what type of cable is included with HPT. If it's serial you either need an old laptop or a gender changer of the right type. If it's USB you should be good to go.
__________________
Frank Ferrucci J/SA 1271
Signman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-28-2020, 11:30 AM   #30
Marty Knox
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Freeland MI
Posts: 160
Likes: 138
Liked 14 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Not for Nuthin' But Close!

It looks like with HP tuners the Transmission Control Module program has to be bought as well. I am sure you will want to adjust the shift points.
__________________
Marty Knox 3071 STK
Marty Knox is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:00 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Copyright © Class Racer.com. All Rights Reserved. Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.Ad Management plugin by RedTyger