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Old 04-13-2021, 12:48 PM   #1
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Default Welding Thrust on Cast Crank?

I have had one Crankshaft place tell me it is fine to
weld the thrust on a 360 Cast Crank. Another place
told me NOT to do it. I have quite a bit of money in
the crank and hate to discard it.

Does anyone have any thoughts?
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Old 04-13-2021, 01:52 PM   #2
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Default Re: Welding Thrust on Cast Crank?

Welded cranks never lasted in my experience.

A local shop with a very experienced guy did them once in a while and usually they failed.

That was usually a steel crank.

I know we had some thrusts welded but again it was a steel crank....

Welding and cast iron are two words that don't go together to me..

I'm sure there will be those that say otherwise though.....
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I assume the cast crank is " "Cast Steel" and not any type of "Iron " casting.
Welding cranks is a lost technical skills. It requires a skilled welder, following proper weld procedures.
Meaning, bake it first to get out all the oil in the casting. Pre heat and holding it during welding. Use proper filler rod, post weld stress relieving and then straighten it afterwards.
May require regrinding the mains and rods depending on the crank casting level, as it was originally manufactured.
A lot of work to do it " Right ".

Hope this helps......

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I have had one Crankshaft place tell me it is fine to
weld the thrust on a 360 Cast Crank. Another place
told me NOT to do it. I have quite a bit of money in
the crank and hate to discard it.

Does anyone have any thoughts?
I would call shafttech in Ohio. They do alot of race crankshaft, and should be able to give you sound advice on if it's repairable.
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Default Re: Welding Thrust on Cast Crank?

John,

I use Performance Crankshaft in Michigan for all my crankshaft welding, both cast and forged.
Ask for the owner, Adney Brown. He has been doing crankshafts all his life and an expert on crankshaft machining.

(586) 549-7557

https://performancecrankshaft.com/
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These are the folks that Bryant Racing recommends for crankshaft repair. I would check with them.

http://www.marinecrankshaftinc.com/
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Default Re: Welding Thrust on Cast Crank?

Any chance you could find a bearing with a wider thrust dimension ?
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Any chance you could find a bearing with a wider thrust dimension ?
Good Idea and I know it works and is available on some GM stuff
but I have not been able to find anything for my Mopar Stuff.

It seems like we have had a lot of problems since we started
leaving two steps. Plus my son is a serial gas whomper near
the finish!
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Good Idea and I know it works and is available on some GM stuff
but I have not been able to find anything for my Mopar Stuff.

It seems like we have had a lot of problems since we started
leaving two steps. Plus my son is a serial gas whomper near
the finish!
Don't know how worn it is, but the King bearing I use for my small block ford application is always too tight and needs to be sanded down. Just used a King bearing on a friend's small block ford engine that was over .018, and the King bearing out of the box worked well.
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Default Re: Welding Thrust on Cast Crank?

I had a period of time when I kept hurting thrust bearings
Had it happen 3 times on different engines and transmissions and even in 2 different cars.

BB Chevy engines, OEM steel cranks.

Had cranks weld repaired and they held up ok

I got in the habit of checking the engine every week with a big screwdriver.

At one point I pulled the oil pan and pulled the rear main bearing out and the main journal was not hurt. Put a new bearing in there and it had probably .030" of thrust movement.....crank thrust flange was worn....I ran it like that and it never was a problem and I eventually fixed it....

I tried every trick I knew.....Drilled the block and the bearing for direct pressurized oil to the thrust from the rear main oil feed hole....did not stop the problem....

For me the only thing that stopped the problem was not using a solid type flex plate....

Never had the thrust issues again...

I still won't use a solid wheel......and the thrust issues I had were from many years ago.....
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