What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking?

Charley Downing · 03-08-2023, 11:51 AM

What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking?

With all the talk about racers safety and blinders the past month NHRA has not been very clear on top end excessive breaking rule. Not to pile on but after the release on NHRAracer last week of two drivers receiving zero points I feel NHRA owes us racers an outline/guild line for this SAFTY issue, not just there standard BS line it’s up to the division direction.
Maybe they should have spent more time on this then then 3x5 inch blinder rule.
Questions
What qualifies for excessive breaking?
Tire smoke, car moving around out of grove at finish line, locking of tires?
Is it one warning per event or one warning per driver per race season?
Are the penalties stiffer if you are a frequent offender.
Will there be a list of people that have been warned so some racers don’t get more than one warning. I think there should be a list similar to what nhra does for comp personal index of people/ racers that have been warned. I personally would like to know if the person in the other lane is an aggressive driver. At a min just for my own racing safety.

NEW SRAC members feel free to comment

Casey Miles · 03-08-2023, 01:56 PM

I agree, I watched a stocker smoke the tires at the finish line at the baby gators and I was sure there would be an excessive braking posted on NHRA racer. Nothing.

442OLDS · 03-08-2023, 02:21 PM

I think most people can see what excessive braking is.

But it is like holding in the NFL.

Some refs will call it,and others don't.

Mike Graham · 03-08-2023, 04:23 PM

From the rulebook.

Anytime it has been
judged that excessive braking has resulted in loss of control
that results in contact with the guardwall and/or light fixtures
or crossing the center boundary lines, INCLUDING PAST THE
FINISH LINE, the contestant will be disqualified. Contact with
guardwall, barriers, or any other track fixture (rubber cones,
when used, are considered visual aids, not fixtures) is grounds

Nick Heath · 03-08-2023, 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Graham

From the rulebook.

Anytime it has been
judged that excessive braking has resulted in loss of control
that results in contact with the guardwall and/or light fixtures
or crossing the center boundary lines, INCLUDING PAST THE
FINISH LINE, the contestant will be disqualified. Contact with
guardwall, barriers, or any other track fixture (rubber cones,
when used, are considered visual aids, not fixtures) is grounds

I see a single critical word in here.

Brett C · 03-08-2023, 04:46 PM

CB,
I like your commentary and questions.
Just remember, no matter how many questions are asked and how many answers are given, we are in their sandbox. And that means at anytime, the Division or Tech director can escort anyone they want from the playground.

Stan Weiss · 03-08-2023, 05:02 PM

Has something changed recently? The excessive breaking has been in the rule book for a number of years.

Stan

tommy d · 03-08-2023, 05:33 PM

Breaking and Braking. If excessive neither is a good thing. Easy, I'm kidding!

Tom Meyer · 03-08-2023, 05:53 PM

Just another sand box. Tom

MR DERBY CITY · 03-08-2023, 05:55 PM

C’mon Charley, excessive braking…it’s the usual suspects. You talk to the majority of them on the phone every week. Occasionally the DD actually has the ballz to DQ them. A week or two passes and then they get brake happy all over again. Unlike the whiny azz, chicken chits that believe BLINDERS are the work of the devil , I don’t have a problem with anyone that HOLDS or DIALS SOFT. If that is your program then more power to you. To each their own . My only advice when you are racing me, PLEASE stay in your lane ….

03-08-2023, 11:51 AM	#1
Charley Downing Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 759 Likes: 16 Liked 625 Times in 86 Posts	What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? With all the talk about racers safety and blinders the past month NHRA has not been very clear on top end excessive breaking rule. Not to pile on but after the release on NHRAracer last week of two drivers receiving zero points I feel NHRA owes us racers an outline/guild line for this SAFTY issue, not just there standard BS line it’s up to the division direction. Maybe they should have spent more time on this then then 3x5 inch blinder rule. Questions What qualifies for excessive breaking? Tire smoke, car moving around out of grove at finish line, locking of tires? Is it one warning per event or one warning per driver per race season? Are the penalties stiffer if you are a frequent offender. Will there be a list of people that have been warned so some racers don’t get more than one warning. I think there should be a list similar to what nhra does for comp personal index of people/ racers that have been warned. I personally would like to know if the person in the other lane is an aggressive driver. At a min just for my own racing safety. NEW SRAC members feel free to comment __________________ Charley Downing 3548 STK Last edited by Charley Downing; 03-08-2023 at 11:54 AM.

03-08-2023, 01:56 PM	#2
Casey Miles Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 692 Likes: 119 Liked 445 Times in 83 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? I agree, I watched a stocker smoke the tires at the finish line at the baby gators and I was sure there would be an excessive braking posted on NHRA racer. Nothing.

03-08-2023, 02:21 PM	#3
442OLDS VIP Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Elgin,IL Posts: 1,333 Likes: 5 Liked 262 Times in 100 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? I think most people can see what excessive braking is. But it is like holding in the NFL. Some refs will call it,and others don't.

03-08-2023, 04:23 PM	#4
Mike Graham Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 393 Likes: 1 Liked 308 Times in 59 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? From the rulebook. Anytime it has been judged that excessive braking has resulted in loss of control that results in contact with the guardwall and/or light fixtures or crossing the center boundary lines, INCLUDING PAST THE FINISH LINE, the contestant will be disqualified. Contact with guardwall, barriers, or any other track fixture (rubber cones, when used, are considered visual aids, not fixtures) is grounds

03-08-2023, 04:46 PM	#6
Brett C VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Thibodaux, LA Posts: 1,164 Likes: 260 Liked 879 Times in 197 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? CB, I like your commentary and questions. Just remember, no matter how many questions are asked and how many answers are given, we are in their sandbox. And that means at anytime, the Division or Tech director can escort anyone they want from the playground. __________________ Brett Candies 4192 Stock/SS God Bless America

03-08-2023, 05:02 PM	#7
Stan Weiss Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Phila, PA Posts: 619 Likes: 0 Liked 556 Times in 293 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Has something changed recently? The excessive breaking has been in the rule book for a number of years. Stan

03-08-2023, 05:33 PM	#8
tommy d Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Indiana Posts: 795 Likes: 1,407 Liked 318 Times in 119 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Breaking and Braking. If excessive neither is a good thing. Easy, I'm kidding! __________________ Who owns this car, with the peace sign,mag wheels, and four on the floor?

03-08-2023, 05:53 PM	#9
Tom Meyer Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Pierce NE Posts: 902 Likes: 53 Liked 303 Times in 106 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? Just another sand box. Tom __________________ Tom Meyer 5240 SS Stock ??? Last edited by Tom Meyer; 03-08-2023 at 06:47 PM.

03-08-2023, 05:55 PM	#10
MR DERBY CITY VIP Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Derby City, USA Posts: 3,362 Likes: 907 Liked 6,764 Times in 1,317 Posts	Re: What is the NHRA official rule for Excessive Breaking? C’mon Charley, excessive braking…it’s the usual suspects. You talk to the majority of them on the phone every week. Occasionally the DD actually has the ballz to DQ them. A week or two passes and then they get brake happy all over again. Unlike the whiny azz, chicken chits that believe BLINDERS are the work of the devil , I don’t have a problem with anyone that HOLDS or DIALS SOFT. If that is your program then more power to you. To each their own . My only advice when you are racing me, PLEASE stay in your lane ….