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Old 10-31-2014, 02:48 PM   #91
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The new cars are the devil......! LOL

I was ecstatic that they allow head studs!
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Old 10-31-2014, 02:52 PM   #92
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Ed, the 360 appeared in 71 I think. Then about 76.348 revisions with heads, pistons, manifolds, and god knows what else mostly for emissions, then the lifters were changed to rollers mid 80, then on and on then the magnum with efi cause it absolutely won't pass emissions, then the DP motor. And lot's in between. It ain't new by any means. It's still the same basic lower motor from 71 with knock off Edlebrock heads and a single plane manifold (in stock). Super Stock of course is a little different. To give you an idea, the pistons are 100 grams heavier than a 360 Magnum truck motor. Now for the Chevies, when you need something you can go to Wal Mart, CVS, Target, Cosco and get ready to race heads, and any other part you need at reduced prices and available at midnight. With all the research and devleopment and parts availablity, your car should go 8.90's and you should be kickin the DP's tail (tale). You need to work on that thing. And what is the wheelbase on your car? 90 inches. These DP's are so long they are articulated in the middle. Did yall know emissions actually started with the 68 model cars. It didn't come back around till EFI and total engine and car management. Just you history lesson for today. Test next Friday.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:06 PM   #93
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On the Factory Showdown cars a .6 second reduction would be a real number on the indexes. I did go back and look at Indy, Maple Grove, and Gainesville , most of the cars in the finals were about 1.50 to 1.60 under. A .6 second reduction will bring the under number to close to 1.00 second under the index. The cars that can run 1.00 + under at Indy are all good cars.

Every once in a while some odd combo comes out and runs a little further under, but not that often.

The indexes of the new FS class cars will say a lot!
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:09 PM   #94
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Lmao!
Next Friday? I had better study.

Larry, I don't see any way they will put the indexes where they belong. They are too indebted to the auto mfgrs, their race sponsors.
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:25 PM   #95
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it will be interesting to see how they do the stick vs automatic deal in these new classes for sure, bet you will be seeing more sticks in these cars
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:36 PM   #96
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I am sure they will have the same effect as the changes 12 years ago did to pickup trucks. Haven't seen a new race truck since. Newest is a 97 model. Probably have the same effect. I'm sure a lot of new 69 Camaro's will appear. I know multiple people have complained that they won't race because of the new cars, so 200 or so returning racers should be ready for next year. Anybody got a better number? Maybe 400? The numbers of the new cars will go down, and the old cars will go through the roof. They had some old truck ran 2.42 under at Indy. That thing needs a 2 second hit for the truck shootout, but wait, almost all the trucks went home. But I got a new method. When you pull in the gate and pass tech, you get a Wally. Then the fuel check, scale, tech folks are off for the rest of the weekend. You only have to state your class when you tech. After that, it's a bracket race even for identical vehicles. Everyone wins. No more haveing to race for Class. You win and get a wally. Nobody is paying anyway. Ken will quit Class Racer because it's boring. Paring will be with a deck of cards. It don't matter who wins the race anyway, you already got your Wally. Maybe just get your Wally and go home, or even better just pay the$310 entry and they will mail your Wally. Save the fuel cost. Ed won't have to thrash any more, Bruce will be happy all the time, Larry Hill won't have to analize the times and classes and won't have to spend time getting his hp reduced while the rest of us squak so he can run to the front. But wait; there is no front. Hummmmmm I got to work on that one. I know. Best reaction is the ladder. Now we got it. What is the next thing we need to solve?
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Old 10-31-2014, 03:54 PM   #97
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What is bothers you personally about this Jeff? No longer being the fast guy in SS/KA ?
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:06 PM   #98
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Just looked into my crystal ball and it told me aluminum radiators will cost 20% more in the near future.
Only if its approved by NHRA!
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:11 PM   #99
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Not intended to hi-jack the thread but there are a lot of eyes in here,

Question....the blueprint specs call for a cylinder head combustion chamber size of 66cc yet the approved factory replacement heads have a chamber of 62.8.....since you can't "grind" on the chambers what is one to do?
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Old 10-31-2014, 04:15 PM   #100
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Are you talking about a stocker head? If you think stocker heads aren't being ported I have some ocean front property by my central Texas home ill sell real cheap lol......
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