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Old 10-16-2009, 07:52 PM   #71
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dat4forte,

The carburetor for the D-Dart was a Holley #4160 (List #3778)
Which means it had metering-plates only.
A single-feed with the short transfer tube, between the front and back float bowls.
It was a vacuum-only for the secondaries.
The butterly openings were 1 11/16" (Primary and Secondary).
Here's the confusion, what was the CFM-rating.
It was 700 CFM.
Holley serial #'s _776 = 600 CFM
_777 = 650 CFM
_778 = 700 CFM (D DART)
_779 = 750 CFM
_780 = 800 CFM

* The D DART carburetor was equipped with a manual choke only.
PC
Okay, food for thought. 1969 Chevy 427 and 1969 Chevy Z-28 with the 302 both had 4150 Holley carbs rated from the factory at 780 CFM. Example, the 427 carbs had a listing of #4346 for the COPOs and #4396 for the ZL1. So how does that fit with what you state above?

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Old 10-17-2009, 03:37 PM   #72
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It doesn't.
What I was stating is that on Model 4160 carbs, with a List #3776
thru #3800, the CFM ratings start at 600 CFM, and ascend up to
800 CFM.
As for other Holley carbs, the List #'s are over the place.
Nothing symetrical.
For instance, the Holley 4160 carb for the 68' Race Hemi has a
List #4235 (Right side, 770 CFM carb)
List #4236 (Left side, 770 CFM carb)

I will not answer a Chevy question
PC

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Old 10-17-2009, 04:45 PM   #73
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It doesn't.
What I was stating is that on Model 4160 carbs, with a List #3776
thru #3800, the CFM ratings start at 600 CFM, and ascend up to
800 CFM.
As for other Holley carbs, the List #'s are over the place.
Nothing symetrical.
For instance, the Holley 4160 carb for the 68' Race Hemi has a
List #4235 (Right side, 770 CFM carb)
List #4236 (Left side, 770 CFM carb)

I will not answer a Chevy question
PC
I thought I'd slip that chivy question in
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Old 10-18-2009, 03:30 AM   #74
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John,

Okay, I will answer one Chevy question.
Yes, they make very nice Tow Cars

I see your Moniker is dart4forte. I'm guessing, but did you have a
69' M-Code 440 Dart?
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:13 AM   #75
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Back to Alan,
On Ted's old car.
If it was classed in L/SA (automatic), then that photo has to be from
1972.
L/S in 1972 was (12.50 - 12.99). Exactly where we were classed with our 67' Cuda and 273/235HP Darts.
Maybe they swapped the Holley for a Carter #4120A AFB, left the
Camcraft camshaft in, and claimed 235 HP.
That sounds more in-line. ET's of 14.20 would have easily been enough to capture a Class trophy each Sunday.
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Old 10-19-2009, 10:40 PM   #76
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John,

Okay, I will answer one Chevy question.
Yes, they make very nice Tow Cars

I see your Moniker is dart4forte. I'm guessing, but did you have a
69' M-Code 440 Dart?
PC
No, actually I own a 71 Charger with a stroker under the hood. It goesto Russo and Steel in January. I actually like the A bodies. I own a 64 sedan (post) that I'm putting the final touches on and a 64 Dart convertable that I just started. With the sedan I'm going to try my hand at Bonneville. Looking to start at the 130 MPH club and then move to 150 MPH club. After that I may go into class. Always wanted to try that out.
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Old 10-20-2009, 04:38 AM   #77
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John,
Both cars are nice rides. Like the fenderwells, gives the car an
authentic Jr. Stock look, and a little easier to change the plugs, oil filter and attempt starter repairs.
I had an under-chassis set on one of my Cuda's, oil all over the headers,
near impossible to get at the starter wires and scorched hands from changing hot plugs.
Good luck on the auction. Hopefully you'll hear "SOLD, SOLD, SOLD"
PC
* Oh, I bet that makes a nice vacuum sound whent hose dual-quads
kick in.
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Old 10-22-2009, 11:01 PM   #78
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John,
Both cars are nice rides. Like the fenderwells, gives the car an
authentic Jr. Stock look, and a little easier to change the plugs, oil filter and attempt starter repairs.
I had an under-chassis set on one of my Cuda's, oil all over the headers,
near impossible to get at the starter wires and scorched hands from changing hot plugs.
Good luck on the auction. Hopefully you'll hear "SOLD, SOLD, SOLD"
PC
* Oh, I bet that makes a nice vacuum sound whent hose dual-quads
kick in.
The guy that built the motor took them over to a buddy of mine and dialed them in on his S/6 motor. Once he got the leakers fixed they were both real crisp and idled they way they should. Time will tell, haven't fired my motor yet. Still some more things to do
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