Ford vs Chevy Build-up - Page 57

JHeath · 04-14-2016, 09:28 AM

Rich, is the upper intake powder coated, or painted ?

HandOverFist · 04-14-2016, 10:21 AM

It's just painted Jerry.

JHeath · 04-14-2016, 04:19 PM

What kind of paint, and what color it is?

HandOverFist · 04-15-2016, 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JHeath

What kind of paint, and what color it is?

It was just a rattle can I had lying about...may have been Eastwood cast grey. The entire block is painted the same.

HandOverFist · 04-16-2016, 08:49 PM

Arrived late at Bowling Green today and only got one qualifying run. The injector/MAF swap proved to be only a marginal improvement. First pass was a 13.56 @ 96.42mph. I glanced at the afr gauge thru the lights and it was showing 11.6...far from the desired 13.5 afr.

Before first round I pulled 12 percent fuel across the board and was going to lower the fuel pressure a bit, but it was already below 40psi. Next pass only improved to a 13.51 @ 96.80mph. I'm thinking the next time I have this junk out I will remove the controller completely and run it on the stock ecm for effect...just about out of ideas here.

GallopinGhost · 04-17-2016, 09:34 AM

Rich, knocking off 2 seconds isn't too bad, Lol. Seriously though, how much timing are you running ? 30 degrees total is a pretty good start.

HandOverFist · 04-17-2016, 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GallopinGhost

Rich, knocking off 2 seconds isn't too bad, Lol. Seriously though, how much timing are you running ? 30 degrees total is a pretty good start.

Oops...edited that second et.

hutt1 · 04-18-2016, 07:15 AM

Rich it was good to see you this weekend. Thanks for the video and the pics of the car.. It was a great learning experience for Nick an the car.. Hang in there with yours it will get there. If we can help in anyway let me know. Scott

HandOverFist · 04-18-2016, 08:17 AM

Thanks Scott...like we briefly discussed this weekend, I believe I will take that controller out of the loop and see what the factory ecm does for afr's.

HandOverFist · 09-03-2016, 01:52 AM

Took the Mustang to the track this evening to try and improve one last time...no joy. It seems no matter what I adjust it makes no difference, even with wild swings with fuel or timing.

Injectors swapped for 19's and a stock MAF sensor...checked phasing for rotor as well. I'm beginning to wonder if this controller is defective...the only thing I did not try this evening is bypassing the controller completely and run it on the factory ecm alone.

I made about ten passes total...the last five the track went away and it spun the tires badly every time. Best et was 8.54 and lagged to 8.70's as the starting line went to hell. My data logger proved to be finicky as well all night...no conclusive data to review. It appears this one will have to go to a chassis dyno along with someone experienced with this efi to ever get it sorted out. I'm totally disgusted right now with the entire deal. Such a shame as this is the easiest combination to drive that I have ever sit in...cuts killer lights time after time.

04-14-2016, 09:28 AM	#561
JHeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 788 Likes: 2,890 Liked 370 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Rich, is the upper intake powder coated, or painted ? __________________ Jerry Heath I/S '93 Cobra FS/J 2010 Mustang "Ebay CJ"

04-14-2016, 10:21 AM	#562
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up It's just painted Jerry. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

04-14-2016, 04:19 PM	#563
JHeath Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 788 Likes: 2,890 Liked 370 Times in 102 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up What kind of paint, and what color it is? __________________ Jerry Heath I/S '93 Cobra FS/J 2010 Mustang "Ebay CJ"

04-16-2016, 08:49 PM	#565
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Arrived late at Bowling Green today and only got one qualifying run. The injector/MAF swap proved to be only a marginal improvement. First pass was a 13.56 @ 96.42mph. I glanced at the afr gauge thru the lights and it was showing 11.6...far from the desired 13.5 afr. Before first round I pulled 12 percent fuel across the board and was going to lower the fuel pressure a bit, but it was already below 40psi. Next pass only improved to a 13.51 @ 96.80mph. I'm thinking the next time I have this junk out I will remove the controller completely and run it on the stock ecm for effect...just about out of ideas here. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321 Last edited by HandOverFist; 04-17-2016 at 11:06 PM.

04-17-2016, 09:34 AM	#566
GallopinGhost Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: VA Posts: 228 Likes: 23 Liked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Rich, knocking off 2 seconds isn't too bad, Lol. Seriously though, how much timing are you running ? 30 degrees total is a pretty good start. __________________ Brian Carpenter Stock 1358

04-18-2016, 07:15 AM	#568
hutt1 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, Tn Posts: 123 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Rich it was good to see you this weekend. Thanks for the video and the pics of the car.. It was a great learning experience for Nick an the car.. Hang in there with yours it will get there. If we can help in anyway let me know. Scott

04-18-2016, 08:17 AM	#569
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Thanks Scott...like we briefly discussed this weekend, I believe I will take that controller out of the loop and see what the factory ecm does for afr's. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

09-03-2016, 01:52 AM	#570
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Took the Mustang to the track this evening to try and improve one last time...no joy. It seems no matter what I adjust it makes no difference, even with wild swings with fuel or timing. Injectors swapped for 19's and a stock MAF sensor...checked phasing for rotor as well. I'm beginning to wonder if this controller is defective...the only thing I did not try this evening is bypassing the controller completely and run it on the factory ecm alone. I made about ten passes total...the last five the track went away and it spun the tires badly every time. Best et was 8.54 and lagged to 8.70's as the starting line went to hell. My data logger proved to be finicky as well all night...no conclusive data to review. It appears this one will have to go to a chassis dyno along with someone experienced with this efi to ever get it sorted out. I'm totally disgusted right now with the entire deal. Such a shame as this is the easiest combination to drive that I have ever sit in...cuts killer lights time after time. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321