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Old 12-20-2014, 12:04 PM   #11
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No change in Stock for Ford 300 150 190 1993 F-150
I Realise nobody is running it, but 190hp for an inline 6?

Too bad, would be interesting.
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Old 12-20-2014, 04:57 PM   #12
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I give up on HP changes.
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Old 12-20-2014, 05:06 PM   #13
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Old 12-21-2014, 12:59 AM   #14
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Why wouldn't the 'mineshaft' conditions trigger, just simply be when there actually are mineshaft weather conditions, and not have anything to do with the top spot of the bottom half of the ladder, or what any car runs for that matter????

Like, anything less than 250' D/A is mineshaft ??
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Old 12-21-2014, 02:36 AM   #15
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Mineshaft conditions are something that we are not familiar with..... (out west)

Most tracks are not corrected, or corrected less than they should be. Phoenix is 1,060 ft and uncorrected, Las Vegas is 2,000 plus and corrected minimally. Fontana is not corrected and should be. The only track that could be considered "mine shaft" is Pomona.....and it is over 1,000 ft, but down hill. The difference between Fontana and Atco is probabably 3-4 tenths for our SuperStock car. I am not bitch--ng....everyone runs the same conditions. But....since I am retiring from racing....and going to sell our Dart...the question I get is "how fast have you gone"....well, we have gone 9.85 (unimpressive)....however, it would go 9.60 in the east coast.....la la la la
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Old 12-21-2014, 08:47 AM   #16
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Like, anything less than 250' D/A is mineshaft ??
You don't think that would be? Would be in Div 4. Been over two years since I've seen anything like that.
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Old 12-21-2014, 11:51 AM   #17
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:14 PM   #18
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You don't think that would be? Would be in Div 4. Been over two years since I've seen anything like that.
The actual D/A to use could be argued, no doubt. I was just saying it seems to make more sense to pick a corrected altitude as the trigger rather than what the cars are running at an event. Like someone else said, Indy National event would always be 'mineshaft' conditions even when its a dog hot summer day.
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Old 12-21-2014, 01:27 PM   #19
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Yep, that one might be. If the humidity isn't 90%.
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Default Re: HP Changes Posted, AFHS Changes for 2015

Using a given density altitude may work, but all tracks are various physical elevations. Houston, Gainesville and Sonoma for example (and a few others I'm sure) are 100' above sea level (physical elevation) or less. Maple Grove is around 550' above, give or take. Vegas is 2,100 or so. Denver is over 5,000'. So the number would have to be changed. -250' below sea level at The Grove would really be -700-800' below track elevation, whereas the same air in G-ville would be -300 below track elevation. And Denver will never see air that good. Neither will Vegas, Chandler AZ or Brainerd MN (Brainerd and Chandler are 1,200' or so above). SO you kind of would have a floating number, specific to each track, as far as what would be considered 'mineshaft'. At least this way NHRA introduced, the number is the same, regardless of track and elevation.
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