Crate Motor Class

[XSTOCKER]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

That's for sure.
They don't want all the cars they have now.
Fall Vegas filled up @ 5 GP's, 6 weeks in advance. So, either they want you to go to more and more points meets, or just go away all together.
They only want 4 cars on Sunday for filler, so eventually, they'll probably just invite the top 4 F/X cars in points or something like that.
What they're actually doing is driving class cars back to the association races.
Most of them allow IHRA class cars. That's where C/M and Pure cars ought to do their racing.
NHRA doesn't want us..and they don't want you.

And there's your thread killer!

[Frank Bialas]

Originally Posted by xstocker

and there's your thread killer!

The End!!! Finally!!! Rip!!!

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

Dan, I set NHRA national records in Stock back in the 1960s, and it was NOT the same as Pure Stock. Appearing to think we ran GM cams, right out of the box, stock appearing pistons & rings, etc,etc, shows how little you know about it.

When almost no cars or spectators show up, and pretty much no contingency sponsors, it is dying.

My business is 45 years old. I can tell when one is dying. IHRA is dying.

Ed
You do not speak for me!
I ran Stock in 1972 and 73 with a 64 Impala SS.
Know the rules and what happened then.
Remember arguments what NHRA considered Legal despite the PN recorded.
Had to run the pistons in the stock position.
Ran off the national records instead of the index.
If you ran low 12's you were considered screaming fast.
Later ran a 69 Impala in M/SA until marriage and family took center stage.

IHRA has never been a popular as NHRA.
Even NASCAR is having issues.


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[MR DERBY CITY]

Originally Posted by Mark Yacavone

That's for sure.
They don't want all the cars they have now.
Fall Vegas filled up @ 5 GP's, 6 weeks in advance. So, either they want you to go to more and more points meets, or just go away all together.
They only want 4 cars on Sunday for filler, so eventually, they'll probably just invite the top 4 F/X cars in points or something like that.
What they're actually doing is driving class cars back to the association races.
Most of them allow IHRA class cars. That's where C/M and Pure cars ought to do their racing.
NHRA doesn't want us..and they don't want you.

Can I get a hell yeah!!!!!!...AMEN.....

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by MR DERBY CITY

Can I get a hell yeah!!!!!!...AMEN.....

Both at same time?

[Barry Polley]

Originally Posted by Bob Mulry

You sound like someone who built a racecar and wants to rewrite the rules and the NHRA, which you don't race, to suit your own agenda....

If you think that the NHRA needs saving, build a legal NHRA car and enter some events.....

There are also people who buy a house next to an airport because it is cheaper...
After they buy they put all of their efforts into closing the airport that was there first...

Just sayin'

Totally agree Bob. I am sure the index would be totally bogus like now...... and even harder for Tech to police. It seems there is an agenda to push stock backwards to make it easier to race for some in the class without performance. Is it cheap? No but I knew that going in. For me its more about performance than dial. As for this crate stuff.... Morph into bracket racing. Leave stock alone..

[Birch motor cars]

Originally Posted by Chad Rhodes

because it dilutes the class. As it stands right now (with the exception of a few paper cars), the motor in the car was available in the car. Have you ever tried to explain a SS/GT car to a casual fan? at least with stock and SS(traditional) its alot easier to explain. A crate motor stocker is barely a step removed froma bracket car

Look Mr Chad 2113 we have the same rules as you do. Calling us one step from a bracket car ??? Really !!! Then that means your one step up from a bracket car as well, think about it. My C\M car meets all IHRA rules just like your bracket car does, although mine is more stock then your is I'll bet !!!

[Ed Wright]

Originally Posted by Birch motor cars

Look Mr Chad 2113 we have the same rules as you do. Calling us one step from a bracket car ??? Really !!! Then that means your one step up from a bracket car as well, think about it. My C\M car meets all IHRA rules just like your bracket car does, although mine is more stock then your is I'll bet !!!

So, your car could have been ordered from the factory with the engine you are running? That is the point Chad was trying to make. His could. You can run IHRA, that is what it evidently was built for, right? It meets IHRA rules, it does not meet NHRA rules. If you had built a traditional Stocker as Chad did, you could (as Chad can) run both. Just go run IHRA.

[Dan Fahey]

Originally Posted by Ed Wright

So, your car could have been ordered from the factory with the engine you are running? That is the point Chad was trying to make. His could. You can run IHRA, that is what it evidently was built for, right? It meets IHRA rules, it does not meet NHRA rules. If you had built a traditional Stocker as Chad did, you could (as Chad can) run both. Just go run IHRA.

Interesting how accommodating IHRA is to the racer.
NHRA has considered Crate Motors and may still happen.
Like that you car race twice in a weekend.
Not going to happen in NHRA.

As for CM engine being less expensive, it is not that much difference.
Less expensive is a good idea considering running Stock is expensive.
Our biggest cost are the Rigs, Tow Vehicles, Lodging, Fuel and stuff breaks.
AND the Parroting is because why you don't like CM?

NHRA would be wise to adopt Pure Stock and CM.
It would help both Drag Racing operations.
More people would build them.

Maybe that is the real ire about CM and PS?

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[Rory McNeil]

Dan, maybe you could explain why it would be "wise" for NHRA to open the door to allow Pure Stock or Crate Motor cars into Stock Eliminator. It seems like there are already more real NHRA legal Stockers out there than spots in NHRA National events. As for "helping both organizations", if the entire 6 car Pure Stock contingent moved to NHRA, how would that help IHRA? Why, that seems to be about 1/2 the number of Stockers racing in IHRA "national events" these days!