Ford vs Chevy Build-up - Page 50

hutt1 · 05-21-2015, 11:45 AM

did you look at the procedure to set the distributor at sbftech? if you set the distributor like a crank trigger it will run but not not perform well at all.. I know this sounds very simple to do but if it it installed wrong it will not run fast.. The injectors are fired off the wheel in the distributor . Just a thought after I sold a car that I had a TON of money in and it would not run very fast and I installed the distributor incorrectly.. haha

HandOverFist · 05-21-2015, 12:28 PM

Pretty sure the distributor is in correctly, but I'll eyeball it again.

Alternator due back today and I'm going to stop and pick up two new O2 sensors just for good measure. The recorder for the PMS should arrive tm...I will then be able to log/review runs to do some intelligent tuning.

If all goes as planned I will forgo the TNT Friday at Bowling Green for the SportsNationals and haul the Mustang back to Buffalo Valley Friday evening for some tuning. I'll just roll into BG Saturday morning with the Camaro.

HandOverFist · 05-22-2015, 01:08 AM

It was there all the time...just needed a better meter to read it.

I'm going to say I have been chasing a non-existent problem all week. According to Anderson that line in the screen is for the boost tables only...not sure it would ever read the true barometric pressure. Oh well, with the TPS at 100% and the new O2 sensors I'm ready to try it again.

SSGT Mustang · 05-22-2015, 12:01 PM

Good news. Real nice meter. Keep us posted. Get the car to hook just right, and then work the timing a bit. Have fun.

hutt1 · 05-23-2015, 09:44 PM

I know your at bg but did u get to test the mustang? I saw your q2 pass and it looked pretty nice ..

HandOverFist · 05-23-2015, 09:54 PM

Yes, took it to Buffalo Valley Friday nite. Got it running decent, but according to the recorder timing is maxing out at 30 degrees. Have not figured out yet how to bump it up with the controller.

I'll be back at BG in the morning...will not make the same mistake I did first round of the NitroPlate race.

Tony Corley · 05-26-2015, 08:31 PM

How did it do?

HandOverFist · 05-26-2015, 08:38 PM

Only managed a 8.35 Tony with the timing limited to 30 degrees and the starting line slip. I'll have to take it back to BG once I figure out how I somehow locked the timing out.

HandOverFist · 05-29-2015, 04:08 PM

Believe I have the timing issue resolved...will have to record a pass to confirm. Added 120 pounds ballast today so it will be legal weight the next race. Found out this afternoon the replacement one-wire alternator has quit charging again. The only thing I can think of off hand is that small crank pulley must be spinning it too fast. When it was working it showed around 14.1 volts at idle.

Sean Marconette · 05-29-2015, 07:50 PM

Rich,
What brand alternator do you have? My East Coast Electric has a small pulley and a 4.5" pulley on the crank. It see's over 7000 engine RPM for the last 7 seasons on every pass without issue. The alternator should be self regulating regardless of RPM. What gauge of wire did you use from the alt to the battery?

Sean

05-21-2015, 11:45 AM	#491
hutt1 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, Tn Posts: 123 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up did you look at the procedure to set the distributor at sbftech? if you set the distributor like a crank trigger it will run but not not perform well at all.. I know this sounds very simple to do but if it it installed wrong it will not run fast.. The injectors are fired off the wheel in the distributor . Just a thought after I sold a car that I had a TON of money in and it would not run very fast and I installed the distributor incorrectly.. haha

05-21-2015, 12:28 PM	#492
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Pretty sure the distributor is in correctly, but I'll eyeball it again. Alternator due back today and I'm going to stop and pick up two new O2 sensors just for good measure. The recorder for the PMS should arrive tm...I will then be able to log/review runs to do some intelligent tuning. If all goes as planned I will forgo the TNT Friday at Bowling Green for the SportsNationals and haul the Mustang back to Buffalo Valley Friday evening for some tuning. I'll just roll into BG Saturday morning with the Camaro. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

05-22-2015, 01:08 AM	#493
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up It was there all the time...just needed a better meter to read it. I'm going to say I have been chasing a non-existent problem all week. According to Anderson that line in the screen is for the boost tables only...not sure it would ever read the true barometric pressure. Oh well, with the TPS at 100% and the new O2 sensors I'm ready to try it again. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

05-22-2015, 12:01 PM	#494
SSGT Mustang Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Jersey Posts: 359 Likes: 35 Liked 203 Times in 53 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Good news. Real nice meter. Keep us posted. Get the car to hook just right, and then work the timing a bit. Have fun.

05-23-2015, 09:44 PM	#495
hutt1 Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Portland, Tn Posts: 123 Likes: 0 Liked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up I know your at bg but did u get to test the mustang? I saw your q2 pass and it looked pretty nice ..

05-23-2015, 09:54 PM	#496
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Yes, took it to Buffalo Valley Friday nite. Got it running decent, but according to the recorder timing is maxing out at 30 degrees. Have not figured out yet how to bump it up with the controller. I'll be back at BG in the morning...will not make the same mistake I did first round of the NitroPlate race. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

05-26-2015, 08:31 PM	#497
Tony Corley Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 230 Likes: 15 Liked 12 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up How did it do?

05-26-2015, 08:38 PM	#498
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Only managed a 8.35 Tony with the timing limited to 30 degrees and the starting line slip. I'll have to take it back to BG once I figure out how I somehow locked the timing out. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321 Last edited by HandOverFist; 05-26-2015 at 08:48 PM.

05-29-2015, 04:08 PM	#499
HandOverFist VIP Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Gulf Breeze, FL Posts: 1,655 Likes: 8 Liked 33 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Believe I have the timing issue resolved...will have to record a pass to confirm. Added 120 pounds ballast today so it will be legal weight the next race. Found out this afternoon the replacement one-wire alternator has quit charging again. The only thing I can think of off hand is that small crank pulley must be spinning it too fast. When it was working it showed around 14.1 volts at idle. __________________ Rich Taylor I/SA - 321

05-29-2015, 07:50 PM	#500
Sean Marconette Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 958 Likes: 618 Liked 165 Times in 60 Posts	Re: Ford vs Chevy Build-up Rich, What brand alternator do you have? My East Coast Electric has a small pulley and a 4.5" pulley on the crank. It see's over 7000 engine RPM for the last 7 seasons on every pass without issue. The alternator should be self regulating regardless of RPM. What gauge of wire did you use from the alt to the battery? Sean __________________ Sean Marconette 84 Mustang 5060 SS/N